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KingBarbarossa
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Topic: Can you imagine Yes without THAT bass? Posted: June 29 2015 at 21:21 |
Can you imagine Yes without Chris Squire's bass? The news of his departure is quite devastating.
I think that a very important ingredient in the Yes sound is now gone and it marks the end of an era.
While I don't think that anybody really can fill Chris' shoes - who would you think might be suited to jump in? Billy Sherwood is supposed to take over and I wish them all luck. Who would be your favorite in this role?
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Posted: June 29 2015 at 21:32 |
Honestly Yes will continue to tour and go on without Chris just like Yes continued on without Anderson. It's a machine.
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Posted: June 29 2015 at 22:00 |
Horizons wrote:
Honestly Yes will continue to tour and go on without Chris just like Yes continued on without Anderson. It's a machine. |
I doubt this, Beyond current obligations I foresee only a small chsance of a continuation, and then only as a 5-small {5-15} date farewell tour if both Jon and Rick decide to buy in. 1 out of 5 chances on that.
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Posted: June 29 2015 at 22:30 |
No one can truly fill Squire's shoes, but Tony Levin did a damn fine job on the ABWH album, and Jeff Berlin did a fine job of filling in for him live. There are many great bassists out there but none had that unique combination of speed, power, melodicism, and grace that our Chris did.
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Posted: June 29 2015 at 22:40 |
Yes is an institution. It will never be the same band, never could be but hopefully the kids and Sherwoods/Downes etc will keep the band name going. Heck why not? Wakemans kids have done amazing stuff with Yes/Strawbs. Froese's son with TD, Harry Waters with Roger Waters etc. I guess it comes down to " proprietary' ownership and big business.
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Posted: June 29 2015 at 22:43 |
Progosopher wrote:
No one can truly fill Squire's shoes, but Tony Levin did a damn fine job on the ABWH album, and Jeff Berlin did a fine job of filling in for him live. There are many great bassists out there but none had that unique combination of speed, power, melodicism, and grace that our Chris did. |
ehhh... we are in 2015 you know.. not 1975... the question isn't whether he can be replaced.. of course he can.. it is s question of whether he should. I think even in that .. that place of detachment from reality that the very famous can sometimes occupy.. you have to figure that whoever owns the Yes brand. Alan White??? Realizes that fans are not likely coming out for Alan White and Steve Howe. nNot for 100's of dollars a pop for a ticket.. not for a 10 dollar to see them playing on a bail of hay at the State Fair. Yes began with Chris.. it ended with his passing. I think even the guys in the band know it. It would be great to see one last go around with some or all of the classic past members but it is Yes.. so who really knows.
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Posted: June 29 2015 at 22:58 |
Chris S wrote:
Yes is an institution. It will never be the same band, never could be but hopefully the kids and Sherwoods/Downes etc will keep the band name going. Heck why not? Wakemans kids have done amazing stuff with Yes/Strawbs. Froese's son with TD, Harry Waters with Roger Waters etc. I guess it comes down to " proprietary' ownership and big business. |
yeah.. I suppose Alan White would be holder of the bands name now. Perhaps they could continue on without Chris.. I just can't see it. Yes fans can be.. well.. sort of nuts!!! I don't think they would react well to a decision to do so, it isn't like the new album and tours were setting things ablaze and creating any sense of excitement even with him. A Squire-less Yes would.. yes...soon be playing atop truck beds at county fairs (opening for Rick Springfield btw ) or on improptu stages in Wal-Mart parking lots I don't think anyone.. not the fans. .not the band wants to see them go out that way.
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Posted: June 29 2015 at 23:01 |
In my humble opinion Yes should call it quits as Jon and Chris were the song writing wizards orrrr, possibly recruit John Wetton to see if the magic can be retained...
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 00:34 |
Jon has said in interviews that he'd like to see Yes continue indefinitely bringing in new players as old ones drop off...but I just don't see it after losing Chris. They should call it a day and leave the legacy where it stands today.
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 00:46 |
I actually think they’ll give it a few weeks and then announce that they’re going to carry on “with Chris’ blessing”, spin a line or two about the rich variety of musicians who have performed under the Yes name adding their own unique contributions over the years, that can carry the brand, er, sorry, I mean band, forward, all creating `the kind of music that only Yes can'...
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 00:56 |
Sherwood is really an understudy for Squire. He may be capable, but it can never be the same. Naturally, I would be blown away if Nick Beggs stepped in, but still, not the same. Should Yes persist rolling the ball, replacements will just be in the shadow, and never fully fill that void left behind by Chris.
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 01:13 |
No one. Never.
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 02:40 |
Where does one draw the line ?? If the others opted to continue, is that with respect to the Master, or business as usual......? No one will EVER replace dear Chris. My head is still reeling........
Edited by Tom Ozric - June 30 2015 at 02:40
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 02:58 |
History in the making:
micky wrote:
the question isn't whether he can be replaced.. of course he can.. it is s question of whether he should. | After 11 years on PA, Micky and I actually agree on something! [edit] Not that I think it would (should?) ever happen but one name cropped up in my mind, especially after listening to a huge amount of Transatlantic recently - Pete Trewavas; similar sound, melodic player... +++awaits howls of derision+++
Edited by Jim Garten - June 30 2015 at 03:00
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 03:26 |
I feel almost like I've lost a friend. Anything Chris ever did with his instrument or his voice, I bought it, I listened to it, it became part of my life and consciousness.
We don't get a choice about whether YES continues with Chris Squire anymore.
All we get to choose is whether we would like this amazing music to continue to be played under the YES banner. I think it should. "And You and I" resonating in some casino somewhere in North Dakota is worth a hundred times more than Taylor Swift at Madison Square Garden. I would recommend Steve Babb of Glass Hammer, who has studiously reproduced the Chris Squire bass sound and style on many recordings, and understands the spirit of the music. In fact, let's just let Glass Hammer be YES. They have earned it, and can do a lot better than "Heaven and Earth."
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 03:30 |
could Graeme Murray of Pallas fame fill the slot, hes quite distinct, has that growly and characteristic sound of Richenbacher, similar to Squire, while nimble and flexible on hes own merrit.
i love Chirs Squire ass bass-player and Yes should not exist without him other then a tribute concert sometime, with new, and old members (with friends also like Hackett).
Edited by Icarium - June 30 2015 at 03:30
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 04:11 |
Does anyone like that recent-ish Squackett album ??? It really is a pearl. I did spin my vinyl of it and was surprised I thought more highly of certain tracks than I did initially. Proves the Squire-Syndrome............ He was beyond amazing .............my head is STILL reeling ............
Edited by Tom Ozric - June 30 2015 at 04:13
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 04:33 |
RabGH wrote:
In my humble opinion Yes should call it quits as Jon and Chris were the song writing wizards orrrr, possibly recruit John Wetton to see if the magic can be retained...
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If there had to be a replacement then Wetton would be a very good one, however I can't help thinking it might be time for them to knock it on the head now (although it pains me to say that).
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 04:59 |
I know it's a business, and they very well COULD continue on...but I will genuinely be pissed if they do that.
Chris, IMHO, was THE glue that held that entire thing together. The only member consistent across all albums, all eras, all incarnations. It would be one thing if he wasn't on an album or two during the 80's - but he was there every single step of the way. I'll be very upset if they continue on without him. It's so wrong, it could never be right.
My father and I were discussing this yesterday; I hope the Yes guys follow the love and light they so proudly stand for, and close The Gates of Delirium in Squire's memory once and for all.
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 06:19 |
I always thought Dave Meros was channeling Squire in some of Spock's Beard's music. He'd make a good fill-in substitute (provided he had the time). Even so, I can't imagine Yes continuing without Squire once their contractual obligations are done. But, you never know... I never imagined them going this long without Anderson on vocals either. So my opinion is as uninformed as ever.
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