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Manuel 
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It would be a different YES, but they could go on as a band, though I certainly doubt it.
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emigre80
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 07:23 |
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All we get to choose is whether we would like this amazing music to continue to be played under the YES banner. I think it should. "And You and I" resonating in some casino somewhere in North Dakota is worth a hundred times more than Taylor Swift at Madison Square Garden. |
Agreed. I saw Yes twice on their last tour and they were excellent. Did I mind that Jon Anderson wasn't there? Of course. Will I mind that Chris Squire isn't there this time? Yes, even more. It will still be a great show filled with great music and I expect I will enjoy it thoroughly. I really do wonder why everyone is in such a hurry to close the coffin on Yes live. What difference could it possibly make to those of you who don't want to see them live if they go on touring or not? If you don't want to see what you consider a diminished Yes, then just don't buy a bloody ticket. Why on earth do you care otherwise about a show you have no intention of seeing?
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 09:42 |
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I can't really imagine Yes without Chris Squire, yet I have to admit that ABWH was enjoyable for me. I think if there was a chance for another ABWH - now perhaps as 'Yes' in future (Or even with White, or someone else, though I like Bruford), or with Patrick Moraz, that would be something I'd be interested in.
Well, only fantasizing...
Who knows...? Maybe they realize that life is just too short to stay apart for so long. I'd like to shout that over to the Genesis camp as well since we are at it...
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Posted: June 30 2015 at 11:27 |
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Any band can go on in the absence of any member, but as I said earlier 'can' is not the same as 'should'.
Yes survived the absence of Jon Anderson (just), but with the core now down to effectively Howe & White I really can't see them continuing as an ongoing unit - maybe a couple of farewell shows, but...
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Hercules
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Posted: July 01 2015 at 04:34 |
I hope not. I hate bands that keep going with few and sometimes even with no original members at all.
But we'd better get used to more of this kind of thing. Our 70s heroes are not getting any younger. I can't believe I'm seeing Andy Latimer in York next week, because he too should have passed away as well.
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Posted: July 01 2015 at 12:11 |
Hercules wrote:
I hope not. I hate bands that keep going with few and sometimes even with no original members at all.
But we'd better get used to more of this kind of thing. Our 70s heroes are not getting any younger. I can't believe I'm seeing Andy Latimer in York next week, because he too should have passed away as well. |
You know, I've long wished that the 70's artists cultivated understudies who could take over the band when they retired. Bob Fripp has done this to an extent, although I don't think King Crimson would continue as KC; rather, I could see a "new" band carrying forth with the flagship music and new compositions.
"Zappa Plays Zappa," led by Dweezil Zappa, is a great example of what could be done! I've seen ZPZ twice, they are excellent (I also saw Frank Zappa in concert twice, so I have a comparison basis).
As far as Yes, we have both Ollie and Adam Wakeman as mentees of Rick Wakeman and Billy Sherwood as understudy to Chris Squire. Howe's son is a drummer, I'm not sure if he would be up to the Yes obligation.
It COULD be done, if done properly and with the approval of band members. I'm just not sure that it will.
Unless that condition is met (understudies), I'd say that the curtain should come down on Yes.
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Posted: July 01 2015 at 12:16 |
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After saw The Who without The Ox, I can imagine Yes without The Fish.
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Posted: July 01 2015 at 12:51 |
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Honestly Yes will continue to tour and go on without Chris just like Yes continued on without Anderson. It's a machine. |
Exactly. I already mentioned The Who without John Alec Entwistle. A few months after JAE passed away, Pete Townshend even said in his diary at his former petetownshend.com that JAE' death can be good for the band, but later he apologized to JAE's mother for his statement 
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Posted: July 01 2015 at 12:59 |
Svetonio wrote:
Horizons wrote:
Honestly Yes will continue to tour and go on without Chris just like Yes continued on without Anderson. It's a machine. |
Exactly. I already mentioned The Who without John Alec Entwistle. A few moths after JAE passed away, Pete Townshend even said in his diary at his former petetownshend.com that JAE' death can be good for the band, but later he apologized to JAE's mother for his statement |
A poor example, I am afraid. The Who have most certainly not been the same band without Entwistle. Moon has been replaced (just) by Jones, and, latterly, Starkey. But not Entwistle. Townsend himself has often said it is not the same band, but they carried on because he felt they had the right to. I have no right to argue with him, but, as a longstanding fan, I do have the right to state unutterably it is not the same. I am very uncomfortable with this idea of bands continuing as a "franchise". In many ways, it is trying to recreate something which is magical, something that properly belongs in our youth, that energy and inspiration that is virtually impossible to recreate. In music, as in life, the past should be allowed to remain, alongside those wonderful memories we have of that past. Cover bands, franchises, old men trying to be young men, can never, ever, recreate that magic. It is like life. Life is an evolutionary process, and, there comes a point when you just have to accept that there are certain things you cannot do as old people that you did as young people.
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Posted: July 01 2015 at 13:52 |
lazland wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
Horizons wrote:
Honestly Yes will continue to tour and go on without Chris just like Yes continued on without Anderson. It's a machine. |
Exactly. I already mentioned The Who without John Alec Entwistle. A few moths after JAE passed away, Pete Townshend even said in his diary at his former petetownshend.com that JAE' death can be good for the band, but later he apologized to JAE's mother for his statement |
A poor example, I am afraid. The Who have most certainly not been the same band without Entwistle. Moon has been replaced (just) by Jones, and, latterly, Starkey. But not Entwistle. Townsend himself has often said it is not the same band, but they carried on because he felt they had the right to.
I have no right to argue with him, but, as a longstanding fan, I do have the right to state unutterably it is not the same.
I am very uncomfortable with this idea of bands continuing as a "franchise". In many ways, it is trying to recreate something which is magical, something that properly belongs in our youth, that energy and inspiration that is virtually impossible to recreate.
In music, as in life, the past should be allowed to remain, alongside those wonderful memories we have of that past.
Cover bands, franchises, old men trying to be young men, can never, ever, recreate that magic. It is like life. Life is an evolutionary process, and, there comes a point when you just have to accept that there are certain things you cannot do as old people that you did as young people. |
Well, Pete Townshend said in rockumentary about Quad album recording that The Who were "off" as a real band after Quad, i.e. that they are a kind of a "brand name" since 1973. As a (casual) The Who fan, I strongly disagree. I saw The Who with JAE live two times in London and one time wihout him in Sankt Polten, Austria. And you know what? When Pete Townshend was start the gig with those I Can't Explain riffs, it was clear that even as "The Two" they're still a great Rock band.
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Posted: July 01 2015 at 17:26 |
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Posted: July 02 2015 at 00:26 |
Svetonio wrote:
Horizons wrote:
Honestly Yes will continue to tour and go on without Chris just like Yes continued on without Anderson. It's a machine. |
Exactly. I already mentioned The Who without John Alec Entwistle. A few months after JAE passed away, Pete Townshend even said in his diary at his former petetownshend.com that JAE' death can be good for the band, but later he apologized to JAE's mother for his statement
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Posted: July 02 2015 at 11:31 |
The bass in yours is no disgrace should really be examined.
Anyone else have Yes sounding different now that he's gone? It sounds fresh again.
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Posted: July 02 2015 at 12:04 |
1st, Hello, hope I can contribute,
This IS a worthy thread to post on, imo - NO.
I know its a business but, can't think of anyone right now, Mr. Squire was to me, half the sound of Yes. Of course, they could go on, but it would never be the same !
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Posted: July 02 2015 at 13:36 |
Because Yes, even more than most long-standing groups, has had such a rapidly moving rotating door with players coming and going, it's all too easy to imagine Yes continuing to play and record without Squire.
As several others have already said, whether they should is an entirely different matter.
I have a great fondness for Drama, but that was, I think, the first album where anyone would be right to ask, "Is this still an album by Yes?"
Haven't seen them play in any of the various incarnations of the last decade or so, and so I really don't know how good they've been live, but I think they seem to have entered that nebulous zone where the distinction between Original Group and Tribute Group has become very blurry indeed.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen some tribute groups that I've very much enjoyed, but if Yes were to continue without Squire would they be Yes, or a tribute to Yes?
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Posted: July 02 2015 at 14:07 |
The trouble with this thread - and others that have addressed the same issue - is that most of you seem to be cynically assuming that Yes are continuing to tour to squeeze the last bit of cash out of their gullible fans. When I attended a Yes concert last year, however, what I saw was a bunch of musicians who were very obviously enjoying playing excellent music. No one was making a killing off those shows - the venues weren't large enough to be that lucrative. The band were there because they wanted to be, and the musicians clearly were pleased that the fans were enjoying the shows as well. If the remaining members of Yes, and whomever they invite to join them in playing, want to go on touring, then more power to them. If you don't want to go see them, then the solution is obvious - don't go to see them. I do wonder how many people on this site would be offended if complete strangers were to sit around speculating about the reasons you continued to pursue your chosen career and whether you should go on doing so. I wouldn't be too pleased about it myself. Maybe we could all be a little less sanctimonious about other people's choices - particularly as we can't read their minds and therefore don't know their motives?
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Posted: July 02 2015 at 14:24 |
For me classic Yes is Anderson+Howe+Squire
not going to diminish anybody else's contribution, but these three were primary songwriters of most 'classical' material
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Posted: July 02 2015 at 21:59 |
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A big question I can't get past is who actually controls the Yes name? Edit: there is an explanation on chrissquire.com. The name is owned jointly by Squire, Anderson, and White. The current Yes, LLC is owned by Squire, Howe, and White.
My feeling is that Mr. Squire and company intended to see Yes through to its 50th anniversary. Although Chris can't be part of it, there may be sufficient interest on the part of enough veteran members to make it happen. And from there, perhaps nobody knows, including the surviving band members.
Edited by RockHound - July 02 2015 at 23:47
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Posted: July 06 2015 at 09:57 |
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Yes, 200 years from now there very well could be a band called Yes that performs the music of old. It will be like an orchestra, not a money thing, but just a way to keep the music alive.
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Posted: July 06 2015 at 10:06 |
In jazz, such a thing is common, and called a ghost band.
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