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Dellinger
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Topic: Epitaph vs Court of the Crimson King Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:54 |
Which of the two particularly "symphonic" and Mellotron heavy songs from the King Crimson debut do you like better?
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Posted: July 03 2015 at 22:05 |
tracks from same album, i'll have to pick In the court of the Crimson King, that crescendo is timeless and no other band has accomplished this before and after. BTW Also sad to say that many are not aware that Bill Bruford was not on this album
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Posted: July 03 2015 at 22:09 |
I never heard about people thinking Bruford was on this album, and it's always been perfectly clear to me, but well. Still, I don't know if Bruford could have done a better job here, I believe the drums are perfect as they are for this album. Well, perhaps on Schizoid Man Bruford could have done some really cool things (and he actually did on later live releases), but on the other songs... no.
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Kati
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Posted: July 03 2015 at 22:23 |
Dellinger wrote:
I never heard about people thinking Bruford was on this album, and it's always been perfectly clear to me, but well. Still, I don't know if Bruford could have done a better job here, I believe the drums are perfect as they are for this album. Well, perhaps on Schizoid Man Bruford could have done some really cool things (and he actually did on later live releases), but on the other songs... no. |
I might be a nincompoop but I do not make things up like this. Why would I, it's tiresome and silly really.
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Posted: July 03 2015 at 22:26 |
Kati wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
I never heard about people thinking Bruford was on this album, and it's always been perfectly clear to me, but well. Still, I don't know if Bruford could have done a better job here, I believe the drums are perfect as they are for this album. Well, perhaps on Schizoid Man Bruford could have done some really cool things (and he actually did on later live releases), but on the other songs... no. |
I might be a nincompoop but I do not make things up like this. Why would I, it's tiresome and silly really.
| Sorry, I didn't try to say I thought you made it up... just that I had never heard about it. Perhaps because my main information about things prog is this site, and usually people here know better.
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Posted: July 03 2015 at 22:34 |
I honestly can't stand the title track.
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Posted: July 03 2015 at 22:39 |
I prefer the title track, and ever since I saw Children of Men in theaters it's held a (albeit very tiny) place in my heart. Ask about Discipline or Red, though, and I may have a tougher time deciding between the title track and the other big tracks from them.
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Posted: July 04 2015 at 02:38 |
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Posted: July 04 2015 at 08:26 |
When I was in high school back in the early 70s, Epitaph hit me like no other song had ever done. I actually had a cassette tape of Epitaph, over and over, on both sides, and listened to it when I went to sleep at night. The majesty of the mellotron, Greg Lake's powerful voice and the frightening vision of the lyrics changed my life, for the better, I believe. And, I know this may be sacrilege, but I prefer Michael Giles' drumming to Bruford. Bruford is NO DOUBT the better drummer, technically, but Giles' drumming is so unique it is recognizable in an instant -- much the way John Bonham and Keith Moon created their own unique sound. BTW, does anyone here know anything about Michael Giles' solo work?
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Posted: July 04 2015 at 09:15 |
Court. Epitaph sounds a bit over the top to my ears.
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Posted: July 04 2015 at 09:42 |
The Court of the Crimson King
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Posted: July 04 2015 at 18:02 |
Both are timeless classics, but Epitaph puts in the emotional gut more than the title track personally (though the latter DOES pack one hell of a punch at it)
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Posted: July 04 2015 at 18:11 |
Epitaph, although In the court... is one of the best closing songs ever.
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Posted: July 05 2015 at 22:55 |
OK, for me, Epitaph, easily, though I do like The Court of the Crimson King a lot too.
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Posted: July 05 2015 at 22:58 |
The title track by far. Along with "21st Century Schizoid Man", the most important and memorable tracks on the album.
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Posted: July 05 2015 at 23:06 |
Title track. I never was a fan of Epitaph.
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Posted: July 06 2015 at 20:08 |
The Court by a hair.
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Posted: July 06 2015 at 21:13 |
title cut is a steady eddy of early symphonic prog. Epitaph is glorious and might eclipse it from time to time, but it ultimately lacks the perverse oomph
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Posted: July 06 2015 at 23:01 |
Epitaph by a bit, but their debut album is amazing, albeit quite overrated compared to some of their other underrated albums such as Lizard or Islands.
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Posted: July 07 2015 at 04:07 |
The title track is timeless, but "Epitaph" always stood out to me. I'm biased toward the production of that particular track for some reason; it's so warm sounding, and I love the organ use.
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