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Posted: September 09 2015 at 08:06
I can accept Queen as having Prog flavours on their first few albums, but accept as much that they ran away from Prog as fast as they could in the 80's.
(Despite releasing the "Flash" soundtrack which is one of my favourite albums!
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Posted: September 10 2015 at 21:52
aglasshouse wrote:
Queen is just as progressive as Zeppelin.
Much more. Zepp doesn't really have very prog songs. No Quarter and a few others come to mind, but they don't have many prog elements. The March of the Black Queen, My Fairy King, Innuendo, The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke, Millonaire Waltz, etc. is more prog than anything Led Zeppelin did.
AZF wrote:
I can accept Queen as having Prog flavours on their first few albums, but accept as much that they ran away from Prog as fast as they could in the 80's.
(Despite releasing the "Flash" soundtrack which is one of my favourite albums!
True. But the same can be said about Yes, Genesis, etc.
Kati wrote:
Queen is more prog than some bands classified here as prog. Some of their tracks were certainly and are prog in my opinion.
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TheLionOfPrague wrote:
Queen's music is much more elaborated and experimental than Rolling Stones, The Who or your typical rock band (AC/DC, Kiss, etc.)
elaborated yes... but experimental??
In a pastiche way, then!!
I'm not saying they were a very experimental band, they were certainly more than your average rock band. Some songs were pretty unique, like Seaside Rendezvous, Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon, Bring Back That Leroy Brown, etc. You don't hear stuff like that on most mainstream bands.
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 04:24
tag Queen whatever you might or want to perceive them to be, to me they were/are extraordinary. A lot of great bands cannot be compared to others because they are unique like no other great and Queen is certainly one of them to me.
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Posted: October 08 2015 at 19:36
Kati wrote:
tag Queen whatever you might or want to perceive them to be, to me they were/are extraordinary. A lot of great bands cannot be compared to others because they are unique like no other great and Queen is certainly one of them to me.
Absolutely, one of the best bands of all time.
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Posted: January 25 2016 at 15:16
I know this thread was a while back, but...
This is my question then: if Queen are only considered prog related because they never made one full-fledged prog album, then how did Kansas make it as a full-fledged prog band? Despite their prog elements, they always had a poppy side to their records. Leftoverture had Carry On Wayward Son, Point of Know Return had Dust in the Wind and quite a few other pop rock songs, Masque had It Takes a Woman's Love, etc. Just a bit curious about that one.
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Posted: January 25 2016 at 20:02
Necrotica wrote:
I know this thread was a while back, but...
This is my question then: if Queen are only considered prog related because they never made one full-fledged prog album, then how did Kansas make it as a full-fledged prog band? Despite their prog elements, they always had a poppy side to their records. Leftoverture had Carry On Wayward Son, Point of Know Return had Dust in the Wind and quite a few other pop rock songs, Masque had It Takes a Woman's Love, etc. Just a bit curious about that one.
And Selling England by the Pound has "I Know What I Like" and it still is one of the masterpieces of prog. I think Queen maybe lacked a few things that are kinda trademark of prog. The music was very complex, creative and was influenced by stuff like opera and vaudeville, but at the same time they never made really long songs and didn't have much instrumental pieces that you'd find in most classical prog. I think I'd put them in crossover prog like Radiohead and Moody Blues.
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Queen were highly versatile and varied. They sounded appealing and were suitable for the radio.
Prog elements I assume to mean complexity and sophistication. Queen had that.
As for Zeppelin - from You Shook Me to the Rain Song. A burning heavy blues cover to one of the more complex bits of composition on guitar out there.
I suppose by prog elements we mean how much like classical music can a prog band get and still stay fashionable.
As for running from prog - well it wasn't really a thing then; not as defined as it is now. Defined? Wll we've now got to the point where we think it's a thing but still dunno what it is.
But hey, ya got be relevant for the kids. Those mega audiences Yes had in 78 and 79 weren't buying records after that. Times had changed and instead you at least had bands such as Asia priming teens (such as me) for the bigger Yes stuff (with which I was far more familiar and preferred much more).
Back to the topic. Queen, like most artists, had a business to run - sell records and concert tickets. They were very successful. Against that are whether on likes what one hears, and why.
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TheLionOfPrague wrote:
A lot of great bands cannot be compared to others because they are unique like no other great and Queen is certainly one of them to me.
