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    Posted: July 31 2015 at 16:26

I just wanted to know what your thoughts are on the Opeth Album Pale communion. I personally think that’s it's a good direction for the band and it's an okay album. Tell me what you think about the album is it good or bad. 

 

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The direction was already taken with Heritage, but yeah I know a lot of Opeth fans who absolutely loathe these two albums. It seems as if they're attracting more prog fans who cannot stand the growling vocals.
Business-wise it might be a bad decision, but I respect them for having the balls to do what they (Mikael) want(s).
As for my own thoughts on these albums? I tried listening to Pale Communion a couple of times during the curtain call of PA's annual album of the year thang and couldn't make it to the end. Not my bag.

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I only have a few albums of theirs, and Pale Communion is at the top of the list. The production is absolutely pristine, the compositions themselves are well thought out and spot-on, and the performances are immaculate. Not a dull moment throughout, a bona-fide masterpiece which looks forward rather than retreading old ground. For my taste, I think Akerfeldt and the boys are heading in the right direction. Hats off to them !!
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Pale Communion is the album Heritage should have been.

And I say that as a non-hater of Heritage.
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It's right here
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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Pale Communion is the album Heritage should have been.

And I say that as a non-hater of Heritage.


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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:


As for my own thoughts on these albums? I tried listening to Pale Communion a couple of times during the curtain call of PA's annual album of the year thang and couldn't make it to the end. Not my bag.



My thoughts exactly, though I did make to the end of the album. I am also not a fan of this new Opeth direction, but we seem to be in the minority.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ole-the-first Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2015 at 09:41
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I tried listening to Pale Communion a couple of times during the curtain call of PA's annual album of the year thang and couldn't make it to the end. Not my bag.

Actually the end is the bast part of it Smile

I loved Heritage, because, despite of old-style sounding, it has pure Opeth atmosphere in it. But Pale Communion was a huge mistake. It takes Watershed-era style of playing and mixes it with too unoriginal 70s sound. It lacks any poignant atmosphere I feel in Heritage, and even if it contains some truly great songwriting, I hope Opeth would change their style for something more original. Third worst Opeth album for me (after Still Life and My Arms Your Hearse).
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Opeth Death growls? I don't listen. No Opeth death growls? I bought the last 2 albums. There is nothing progressive about death growls, a Halloween-ish metal stereotype for obstreperous teenagers that has dragged on for 30 years.
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^ It doesn't need to be progressive. There are those of is who genuinely enjoy them. I don't think I've ever made the connection with Halloween...
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while being far away from growls and extreme metal this album knocked my socks off Clap
I do hope this will not be their last album ...


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Heritage and Pale Communion are the best albums of Opeth! Big smile
(And the only albums of them I regard as progressive rock Tongue)

Not only that, both albums made it in my personal best albums of the respective years. Pale Communion I like even more than Heritage. it sounds more mature and the musical ideas seem to be better worked out.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Opeth Death growls? I don't listen. No Opeth death growls? I bought the last 2 albums. There is nothing progressive about death growls, a Halloween-ish metal stereotype for obstreperous teenagers that has dragged on for 30 years.
Nothing progressive about 70s revivalism either. Tongue
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Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Opeth Death growls? I don't listen. No Opeth death growls? I bought the last 2 albums. There is nothing progressive about death growls, a Halloween-ish metal stereotype for obstreperous teenagers that has dragged on for 30 years.
Nothing progressive about 70s revivalism either. Tongue
 
You're absolutely correct. It is like Sha-na-na at Woodstock singing "At the Hop" while Santana and Hendrix were playing something from another era -- hell, another universe.LOL
 
Edit: From a generic standpoint, there is "prog", I guess: a recognizable genre in which no one ever left 1969 to 1979, where the compositions adhere to a certain sound from that era, much like there is still "punk" although the actual punk era died in the late 70s. And then there is actual "progressive rock" which no one can define properly. Wink


Edited by The Dark Elf - August 01 2015 at 12:08
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Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:


(And the only albums of them I regard as progressive rock Tongue)

It helps that the other albums are progressive metalTongue

Anywho, Heritage and Pale Communion are pretty good. Opeth's been handling the sudden left turn from prog death to symph revivalism very well. Nihil novi, but superior to most other albums of the sub-genre.

What they've made me wonder is if this is all Akerfeldt wanted to do all along... 


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I always said that I knew that I would like Opeth if they got rid of Cookie Monster and it has become a true statement.  I enjoy both Heritage and Pale Communion.  No growls is a definitely plus for me.
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The best thing would be a remake of all albums - without growls!
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^ not sure if albums such as Still Life or Blackwater Park would sound equally good. It might be an interesting experiment, but still they are masterpieces as they are
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PC is a much more focussed album.  Heritage was good in parts but that's the problem - it was literally all over the place.  PC is a huge improvement.

That said I much prefer their heavier stuff.  Looks like I'm in the minority here LOL.  For me you just can't beat Deliverance-Blackwater Park-Ghost Reveries, man Cool.
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I think It is better than the other two "progressive/less heavy albums"  Damnation & Heritage.
But i prefer other albums, especialy Orchid, Ghost Reveries and Watershed.
  
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