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symphonicman 
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 Topic: 3rd Rd. Classics: Voyage Acolyte v. FIsh Out Water
Posted: August 14 2015 at 22:18 |
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Chris Squire, Fish Out of Water.
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Master James of St. George.
Of the fields and the sky.
He used to build castles of stone, steel, and blood.
But lines get broken down.
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micky
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Posted: August 14 2015 at 15:44 |
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bah...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Posted: August 14 2015 at 15:42 |
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Another useless vote for Fish Out of Water...
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micky
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Posted: August 14 2015 at 15:14 |
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bah.. for the hell of it
one last bah
bah....
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Posted: August 14 2015 at 09:44 |
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Went with Squire. Never was a huge fan of Voyage...I prefer some of Hackett's more recent stuff actually.
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 19:08 |
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Fishy fish fish
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Posted: August 11 2015 at 03:00 |
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Both are masterpieces, but Chris Squire gets my vote.
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Posted: August 10 2015 at 14:16 |
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Fish Out of Water.
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Follow me on twitter @memowakeman
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tamijo
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Posted: August 10 2015 at 06:41 |
Fish out of Water
Edited by tamijo - August 10 2015 at 07:40
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: August 10 2015 at 03:35 |
I'm not surprised that some may prefer the edited version but even before I knew about the length of the original recording I wished the end-section would go on "forever". If I for some reason had to edit the original Shadow of the Hierophant down to a about eleven minutes I'd rather start the tune at 5:55 and end it at 17:01.
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Posted: August 10 2015 at 03:24 |
 micky wrote:
bah.... and to add insult to injury... Raff felt compelled to put this album.. perhaps to get a contact high from what you all are smoking.
man.. I did feel compelled to hit the sheets and take a nap... so is that what classifies as a great prog album for you bobbleheads hah!!
Fish out of Water goes on next... at least it has great musicians... and actually doing something... and it has more kick ass bass lines than you can shake a stick at hah!!! double hah..
and for good measure ..another... bah...
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Second listen (I know I've heard it before but it's been aaages) and I really like Fish Out of Water. Squire has a nice voice but buggers about with the vowels a bit more than I like. Silently Falling's a great song and compares very favourably to Shadow of the Hierophant in the epic with ridiculous fadeout category. Hold Out Your Hand is pretentious lyrical drivel of the worst kind. Hackett's has plenty of great musicians on it but Fish Out of Water has a line-up of really wonderful players (Collins, Moraz, Hastings, who's probably my favourite woodwind player in the prog lot). Anyway, I feel Fish Out Of Water is the better of these albums. If it were To Watch The Storms I'd be going for Hackett.
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Dellinger
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 22:11 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
I had a listen to Fish here the other day, and it didn't really float my boat. Voyage on the other hand, while not the most extraordinary of albums, still sports astonishing beauty in the form of Shadow of the Hierophant. Goosebumps City for sure. |
Got nothing to add here except get the unedited or extended 17 minute version if you haven't already. Five minutes more of musics most wonderful crecendos. |
My version of Voyage has that long version of Shadow of the Hierophant too. But even though it seemed as if it would be a definitive version for the song, I actually liked the original better. The longer version seems just overkill, and the grandeur of that final section is washed away by it's over-long nature.
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Dellinger
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 22:07 |
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Even though I do enjoy Fish out of Water, there's something about it that puts me off. Voyage is in general a very good album from start to end, and Shadow of the Hierophant is among my very favourite prog songs, so my vote goes for Hackett.
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AEProgman
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 21:47 |
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Always loved Fish Out of Water, even against the Hackett
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micky
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 19:05 |
that counts for something  I do love a lot of Hackett's later stuff.. so I guess that counts for something as well 
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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HackettFan
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 19:03 |
micky wrote:
hahahha...
I'd love to attend that party... drinking tea and being in bed by 9pm you all would be.
you need a bit of life in that party... perhaps burning an effegy of me and pissing on Squire's memory should be fitting.
Look at that score... that should upset any real prog fan.. who love more than Genesis and anything Genesis related. One of the greatest rock bassist solo albums, strongly regarded as a career defining work.. and you all sh*t all over it.
bah...
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What? I like Squackett. And if it weren't a Sunday I'd let the party go till 10pm.
Edited by HackettFan - August 09 2015 at 19:07
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micky
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 18:59 |
hahahha... I'd love to attend that party... drinking tea and being in bed by 9pm you all would be. you need a bit of life in that party... perhaps burning an effegy of me and pissing on Squire's memory should be fitting. Look at that score... that should upset any real prog fan.. who love more than Genesis and anything Genesis related. One of the greatest rock bassist solo albums, strongly regarded as a career defining work.. and you all sh*t all over it. bah...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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HackettFan
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 18:51 |
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Voyage of the Acolyte. Looks like I'll be throwing a victory party.
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micky
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 17:43 |
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bah.... and to add insult to injury... Raff felt compelled to put this album.. perhaps to get a contact high from what you all are smoking.
man.. I did feel compelled to hit the sheets and take a nap... so is that what classifies as a great prog album for you bobbleheads hah!!
Fish out of Water goes on next... at least it has great musicians... and actually doing something... and it has more kick ass bass lines than you can shake a stick at hah!!! double hah..
and for good measure ..another... bah...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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t d wombat
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 17:19 |
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Whatever. I've never been overly turned on by Hacket's solo stuff. The Genesis revisited albums, while interesting for me as a Genesis fan seem to provide proof positive that its the sum of the parts that make a great band not the individual components. Then again Fish is for me all a bit yeah OK and proves the same point. Maybe I should toddle off and give them both a good relisten but while I think Acolyte has a couple of great tracks it also has its non events while Fish rarely varies from good but not great. Consider this a non vote .... Fish cos its the underdog.
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3rd Rd. Classics: Voyage Acolyte v. FIsh Out Water
