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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2015 at 11:58
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:


I don't really agree with point 4 (nor point 5 actually, but I just posted about it). There's about no single Genesis album I like as a whole... they all have at least one song I rather dislike. For me the band to really have such a line of masterpieces would be Pink Floyd... or at least almost. I would say Dark Side, Wish you were Here, and Animals are among my very favourite albums from any band. I guess I can include The Wall too, even though that one is somewhat lower in my apreciation, but still a monster of an album. And I could put Meddle there too, but it may be even a bit lower in my apreciation (a few songs I don't really like, though Echoes makes up for it), plus, I would have to ignore Obscured by Clouds (also nice, but not in the same league), which would actually be cheating. Actually, if I wanted to have a listen of 5 great albums from Floyd, I might start with Live at Pompeii instead of Meddle, and then go from Dark Side to The Wall.


That's your taste, but most Prog fans (including myself) consider Genesis lyrics brilliant, but again, it's your taste.

But please, you create Pink Floyd streak deleting albums and choosing others, only Genesis has 7 masterpieces on a row, or at least 5.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2015 at 13:43
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Big Kid Josie Big Kid Josie wrote:

Thanks to everybody for their take on reasons for admiring Genesis...one that stands out to me, now that someone mentioned it, but that I didn't when I thought about the band is:  their great, self-contained stories in their lyrics (Hogweed, Cinema Show, Entangled, Ripples, Squonk, One for the Vine, Blood on the Rooftops).

They consistently wrote better lyrics and stories in their songs than any of the other "Big 7" prog bands of the 70's.

This is what I enjoy about this forum---all the different perspectives on my favorite music that helps me enjoy it even more.  Thanks, guys.   


Actually, their lyrics and stories are one of the main things that turn me off from many of their songs. Many stories (like Musical Box), I just don't like, none of it, and some others I might find interesting, but I just don't like the way they are described and the immages they put in my mind. Many times, I just prefer to ignore them and enjoy the music... or just not listen to them at all in the case of songs I don't like anyway.
Yeah, I'm aware of your disposition from past threads and there's no way for me to disabuse you of your opinion. I find it interesting, though, how you say you don't like the stories and the images they produce. I do recall you didn't like the description of the snake-like bodies of the lamia in The Lamia, as for example, and I do find that interesting, mostly because it's hard for me to relate to. The types of imagery you dislike really appeals to my boyish sense of adventure; not only adventure, but a unique "going where no one has tread before" sort of adventure. Admittedly some of it can be fairly mundane and unheroic, like Return of the Giant Hogweed, but they describe it with a driving sense of adventure, and my reaction to that is that it's brilliantly creative and entertaining that way, and darkly humorous. That's my perspective anyway.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 15:09
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

haha..  I'll give it to Ivan.. he sure makes Genesis sound interesting.. shame the group itself couldn't do that for themselves.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 17:22
Because I love them (well, maybe not those last two albums [they're sucky]). A classic English band that showed personality and masterful skill in spades. Thank you, Peter, Phil, Mike, Steve, and Tony (and Chester wasn't that bad, either).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 19:12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 22:25
What actually bugs me is how much hate the Collins-era Genesis albums after Wind & Wuthering get.

I don't like all of them, We Can't Dance for once is pretty bad save for the first three tracks in it, and I won't deny Abacab and And Then There Were Three suffer from having a handful of filler material. But Duke, the 1983 s/t and Invisible Touch are great pop albums imo, especially Duke, I'm one of these guys who claim Duke is still prog despite being poppier than the albums before it. As for the post-Duke albums, I always thought they had good pop music with some prog sensibilities, which is more apparent in songs like Dodo/Lurker, Me and Sarah Jane, Mama, the Home by the Sea suite, Tonight Tonight Tonight, Domino and Driving the Last Spike, all of these which happen to be my favorite tracks on the albums they came from.

Do I think they're as good as the Genesis albums from Nursery Cryme to A Trick of the Tail or Wind & Wuthering? Well, no, but I don't think they deserve to be as maligned as they are at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 22:50
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:


I don't really agree with point 4 (nor point 5 actually, but I just posted about it). There's about no single Genesis album I like as a whole... they all have at least one song I rather dislike. For me the band to really have such a line of masterpieces would be Pink Floyd... or at least almost. I would say Dark Side, Wish you were Here, and Animals are among my very favourite albums from any band. I guess I can include The Wall too, even though that one is somewhat lower in my apreciation, but still a monster of an album. And I could put Meddle there too, but it may be even a bit lower in my apreciation (a few songs I don't really like, though Echoes makes up for it), plus, I would have to ignore Obscured by Clouds (also nice, but not in the same league), which would actually be cheating. Actually, if I wanted to have a listen of 5 great albums from Floyd, I might start with Live at Pompeii instead of Meddle, and then go from Dark Side to The Wall.


That's your taste, but most Prog fans (including myself) consider Genesis lyrics brilliant, but again, it's your taste.

But please, you create Pink Floyd streak deleting albums and choosing others, only Genesis has 7 masterpieces on a row, or at least 5.


Ivan


Yeah, it's my taste, just as liking those lyrics is your's. For me, I much prefer Waters Lyrics over Gabriel's, but then again that's my taste. Surely if we make a poll here, Gabriel would win as a lyricist... if we made a poll among classic rock fans in general, then surely Pink Floyd would win by a huge margin. And about the streak, well, my first statement was that I didn't consider any of Genesis albums as a masterpiece, because they all have something I don't like (and I do am aware that I'm talking about my own taste), so 4 masterpiece albums in a row from Floyd is more than that. And many here might actually consider Obscured by Clouds as a masterpiece too, so that would make it 5 albums, and if you already got ObC into the streak, you would surely have to include Meddle too, that makes 6. And from there, it wouldn't be too difficult to find people adding Atom Heart Mother and/or The Final cut into the streak, making it into a 7 or 8 album streak. And then, there's just about no album I don't enjoy listening from them, which is not the case with Genesis, or mostly any other band around. But then again, it all comes down to our personal tastes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 22:56
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Big Kid Josie Big Kid Josie wrote:

Thanks to everybody for their take on reasons for admiring Genesis...one that stands out to me, now that someone mentioned it, but that I didn't when I thought about the band is:  their great, self-contained stories in their lyrics (Hogweed, Cinema Show, Entangled, Ripples, Squonk, One for the Vine, Blood on the Rooftops).

They consistently wrote better lyrics and stories in their songs than any of the other "Big 7" prog bands of the 70's.

This is what I enjoy about this forum---all the different perspectives on my favorite music that helps me enjoy it even more.  Thanks, guys.   


Actually, their lyrics and stories are one of the main things that turn me off from many of their songs. Many stories (like Musical Box), I just don't like, none of it, and some others I might find interesting, but I just don't like the way they are described and the immages they put in my mind. Many times, I just prefer to ignore them and enjoy the music... or just not listen to them at all in the case of songs I don't like anyway.
Yeah, I'm aware of your disposition from past threads and there's no way for me to disabuse you of your opinion. I find it interesting, though, how you say you don't like the stories and the images they produce. I do recall you didn't like the description of the snake-like bodies of the lamia in The Lamia, as for example, and I do find that interesting, mostly because it's hard for me to relate to. The types of imagery you dislike really appeals to my boyish sense of adventure; not only adventure, but a unique "going where no one has tread before" sort of adventure. Admittedly some of it can be fairly mundane and unheroic, like Return of the Giant Hogweed, but they describe it with a driving sense of adventure, and my reaction to that is that it's brilliantly creative and entertaining that way, and darkly humorous. That's my perspective anyway.


Perhaps I dislike them just because it's hard for me to relate. And it's strange, for I do like fantasy and mythology a lot, but it's just about the way Gabriel describes things. I don't really like this kind of humour and so... I guess I like my music more serious. And if such lyrics end up on a song I don't really like to begin with (like Giant Hogweed), well, there's no hope for me there. Perhaps what you describe as a boyish sense of adventure might seem as childish for me... and I have never really liked childish stuff (in a way, not even when I was a child... up to a certain point, of course).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2015 at 21:31
I saw Genesis perform at the "Spectrum" in Philadelphia on the "Wind and Wuthering" tour. One of the tightest bands I've ever seen. I hold them in the highest regard for that alone! Not one indication of a mistake on any instrument or forgetfulness of breaks within arrangements. Just amazing! The mix was incredible and they were so great ..I just cracked up...I mean..I could not believe it. It was like seeing many other bands that reached a certain peak from traveling the road and doing a entire show like second nature. Example: An outstanding show by Jethro Tull or Yes. It was very much like that and kept you on the edge of your seat. They had such an amazing high level of perfected dynamics in music. It was very impressive how the band went from soft to loud ...and or the dynamic build up of volumes on the instruments ..gradually progressing was very Classical oriented. Some people in the audience would get jaded during a section of music that was soft and gentle. "One For The Vine"  in particular and that can be attributed to the times we were living in. If people were bored, they would light up some smoke and prepare for the more exciting parts. Professional Classically trained musicians from Philadelphia were in the audience to observe the band and learn from the experience of hearing the band live. They were forming cover bands ..playing Genesis music up and down the east coast of the U.S. to make a good living...and additionally forming original Progressive Rock bands of their own ...which some were signed in the late 70's during the downfall of when Prog was originally promoted in the media. 


Genesis were an important band to a majority of trained musicians in the 70's who took music seriously...or took themselves very seriously..Lol! I was part of the music scene when Happy The Man and Nektar played clubs and theaters. I was basically on the road all of the time and skilled musicians sat in dressing rooms, playing "Entangled", "Dance On A Volcano" or "Watcher Of The Skies" and playing those songs ...not any worse, but maybe as good or better than Genesis, regarding their personal embellishments they added on their own. This was part of the development within the second wave of Prog, (maybe wrong?), but Genesis were a huge influence on thousands of American musicians in the 70's. All sorts of vocalists I knew from the road were classically trained and experienced in acting. They bought the costumes of Peter Gabriel and emulated his vocal tone to the max, and doing a set of Genesis material in a Rock club that was so packed, you couldn't even get to the bathroom before you had to enter the stage again. They were much better than many of the tribute bands of today. They just came out of music college and others had been playing Jazz and Broadway material in N.Y. Everybody around me was learning Genesis material at that time. When "A Trick Of The Tail" had been released ..musicians were blowing up each other's phones. It was ridiculous! Musicians knew that Gabriel had left and doubted the future of the band. A Trick Of The Tail completely chopped that theory in half and dozens of cover/original bands spent long afternoons trying to tighten up "Dance On A Volcano". So...that is the insight I offer from a time period when Genesis completely tore off the heads of musicians. Gentle Giant were very influential to American musicians and they became popular in Philadelphia ..to a degree...where they were talked about all the time. In art galleries , record shops, and concerts. It was short lived and probably because they didn't gain popularity on the east coast until the release of "The Power and the Glory"...where the difference lies within years prior to that ..when Genesis had already established a devoted following.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2015 at 03:29
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

This is almost an impossible question because it is not about why I like/love Genesis, but why everyone else does too. My guess is that many like me discovered Prog through Genesis and thereby became the gold standard. I have always found their stature to be equivalent to Yes, but with better stories, better drama. Their playing is not quite as virtuoso-ish as ELP, but with more consistently better song(/instrumental) writing. Their song writing is equivalent in quality to Pink Floyd, but with better more intricate playing. I have always found their stature less than that of King Crimson Among Prog pundits, but there was a warmth to Genesis not found in KC (not at least until Wetton or Belew). Their instrumental work was more intricate than Jethro Tull. Rush is just plain different, nuff said about that.

Genesis were the first Prog band, to my knowledge, accrue a line tribute bands (unless we're counting the Beatles). This tends to indicate that they were quickly associated with a "golden age", most likely motivated by the sense of loss from PG's and to a lesser extent HF's departures. Genesis were also superior to many many other bands in terms of storytelling, but with their movement toward Pop came a movement away from that sort of storytelling, which brought a desire for the return of the old lore. Notice how many more references (like that of Hogweed and such) can be pulled out of Genesis material in a fashion that is widely recognizable across the PA spectrum.

^^THIS^^  (Well-stated, Hackett Fan...)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2015 at 14:19
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

I saw Genesis perform at the "Spectrum" in Philadelphia on the "Wind and Wuthering" tour. One of the tightest bands I've ever seen. I hold them in the highest regard for that alone! Not one indication of a mistake on any instrument or forgetfulness of breaks within arrangements. Just amazing! The mix was incredible and they were so great ..


Genesis were an important band to a majority of trained musicians in the 70's who took music seriously...or took themselves very seriously..Lol! I was part of the music scene when Happy The Man and Nektar played clubs and theaters. I was basically on the road all of the time and skilled musicians sat in dressing rooms, playing "Entangled", "Dance On A Volcano" or "Watcher Of The Skies" and playing those songs ...not any worse, but maybe as good or better than Genesis, regarding their personal embellishments they added on their own. This was part of the development within the second wave of Prog, (maybe wrong?), but Genesis were a huge influence on thousands of American musicians in the 70's. All sorts of vocalists I knew from the road were classically trained and experienced in acting. They bought the costumes of Peter Gabriel and emulated his vocal tone to the max, and doing a set of Genesis material in a Rock club that was so packed, you couldn't even get to the bathroom before you had to enter the stage again. They were much better than many of the tribute bands of today. They just came out of music college and others had been playing Jazz and Broadway material in N.Y. Everybody around me was learning Genesis material at that time. When "A Trick Of The Tail" had been released ..musicians were blowing up each other's phones. It was ridiculous! Musicians knew that Gabriel had left and doubted the future of the band. A Trick Of The Tail completely chopped that theory in half and dozens of cover/original bands spent long afternoons trying to tighten up "Dance On A Volcano". So...that is the insight I offer from a time period when Genesis completely tore off the heads of musicians.


And true...
I've mentioned this before in past posts some years ago, but I (and two friends) were very fortunate to have seen Genesis Selling England show at the Roxy in LA...Then in January 74 caught The Lamb show in Berkeley...we followed them back to LA and saw The Lamb again at the now famous Shrine show. Three outstanding concerts in every aspect. Perhaps because it was LA, the audience at the Shrine show felt more electrified (at times a little rowdy) but embraced The Lamb, and still we weren't disappointed as they came back for two encores, The Musical Box, and Watcher Of The Skies.

We had also seen Pink Floyd, EL&P, and Yes, but there was no comparison the lasting effect the Genesis shows had left us with. At the time we were three music students at the university and we couldn't wait to get back home to learn how to play Watcher Of The Skies, Cinema Show, or the piano intro to The Lamb! No, we didn't become a tribute band but as Toddler mentioned how Genesis became an important band to "trained musicians in the 70's" Genesis to us became the most important and best Progressive Rock band, musically, lyrically, and conceptually.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2015 at 15:50
Early Genesis turned me into a zombie prog pod person.  I had enjoyed prog bits here and there there but in the late '70's it was what really got me baby.  There were parts of Trespass that gave me goosebumps despite listening to it on a crappy little portable turntable with built in speakers.  Yeah they crapped out by going commercial but they made substantial music when it mattered in my life.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2015 at 21:27
Genesis made enjoyable music whether the involved epic or the harder edged sounds in the 80s onwards. They sound impressive and contain lots off details. The epics have the details going on, the songs have the details inside and happen relatively quickly. But their career is in a capsule and not growing or ... changing. (Jaws theme). Some like change, many don't and resist change. Can't change that.

Odd really as progression implies change. Lyrically PG's sci fi orientation captures (or not) the imagination. Lyrical direction was changed as Gabriel was no longer around. I thought the others did very well lyrically and the musical variety was explored more e.g. the difference between Dance On A Volcano and Entangled. The expected direction from Genesis turns up in the latter day epics; sort of historical works such as Driving The Last Spike and story metaphors such as One For The Vine. I think they became more direct with And Then There Were Three. a very cynically themed album. Always thought it should have been a 2 LP set really. There were a lot of ideas (Undertow) that may have benefited form musical exploration - it was like a great prog rock album but with truncated numbers. Then again I thought, and still do that Seconds Out should have been a 3 LP set and Live a 2 LP. But I'm like that. More is more. No changes there.

I'm fine with Hogweed (the number not that plant I found in the Royal gardens at Kew) or Follow You Follow Me. These guys are good at so much. Frightening and friendly. Or in the case of the Lamb, scary and funny (bizarre).

Too many changes for the CAS era perhaps. One possible observation of the failure of CAS was in that critical aspect - the drumming. Nir Zidkyahu was fine but very different to Collins. New voice and new drums was too much. So goodbye changing Genesis. Hello unchanging capsule.

Perhaps over familiarity with playing the same records and a resentment when the changes are too great for prog fans' pop sensibilities means time's up. Or maybe the demands on someone's time as an adult means less time to devote to playing the same record constantly until you like it.

Once upon a time a rock and roll artist by the name of Ricky Nelson went on a come back tour, early '80s or so. He had a new album for his devoted followers. They turned up to the gigs but the album tanked. The fans only wanted what they knew from the '50s. They did not respect the artist just wanted repetitive audio wall paper.

Not a new thing, look at the conflicts with  changes in Floyd, Yes and Genesis. Oh, and to a lesser extent Crimson from 1981 being different from 69 - 74. Perhaps it's not so much the music as what listeners associate with it. Changes to that makes them look at their lives and time and it's unsettling. The old days are always best. Can't change those.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2015 at 10:05

I think Hackett's "Genesis Revisiteds" are part of "Number of Genesis Lovers" and you can't ignore that. Most of Revisited's musicians are Prog stars and have many fans around the world (like S.Wilson). There are many Genesis's "Influeced Band" to "Copycat Band" and these bands have their own fans. Every 2,3 years release VA "Genesis tribute albums". 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2015 at 02:50
I`m a fan of a Genesis freak like most here. even the Hackett`s " Genesis Revisited " albums... even the fans whom production of there own progressive rock music like Stevie Wilson do have there Collins era whom call them albums Collins Backing Band as most of the album where more pop than progressive rock, there where the odd two/three  tracks which where PROG!...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2015 at 17:52
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:


I don't really agree with point 4 (nor point 5 actually, but I just posted about it). There's about no single Genesis album I like as a whole... they all have at least one song I rather dislike. For me the band to really have such a line of masterpieces would be Pink Floyd... or at least almost. I would say Dark Side, Wish you were Here, and Animals are among my very favourite albums from any band. I guess I can include The Wall too, even though that one is somewhat lower in my apreciation, but still a monster of an album. And I could put Meddle there too, but it may be even a bit lower in my apreciation (a few songs I don't really like, though Echoes makes up for it), plus, I would have to ignore Obscured by Clouds (also nice, but not in the same league), which would actually be cheating. Actually, if I wanted to have a listen of 5 great albums from Floyd, I might start with Live at Pompeii instead of Meddle, and then go from Dark Side to The Wall.


That's your taste, but most Prog fans (including myself) consider Genesis lyrics brilliant, but again, it's your taste.

But please, you create Pink Floyd streak deleting albums and choosing others, only Genesis has 7 masterpieces on a row, or at least 5.


Ivan

Obscured by Clouds is a soundtrack, so it's not really cheating. Anyway, I think Genesis made more great albums than any other band outside Floyd. Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and A Trick of the Tail are all amazing. Trespass, Wind and Wuthering and And Then There Were Three a bit below but still very good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2015 at 15:24
Well, it's pretty obvious they are popular here because they were one of the original prog bands that became well known (though oddly, less for prog than for their later pop).  They are a hugely famous band that probably led many people to prog who might not have been led to it (I'm thinking of friends who adored the 80's albums and decided to see what they had done before).  Whether individuals here like them or not, it's impossible to deny their tremendous influence on the prog world.  I mean, what other band was responsible for an entire resurgence of the prog sound (80's neo prog owes far more to 70's Genesis than any other 70 prog bands)?  What other band has been more copied in style and songwriting approach?  Yes might come close on that last one, but I've certainly heard far more bands heavily influenced by 70's Genesis than influenced by 70's Yes.

Also, they were a great, original band with a unique stage show for their time.  Their songs were very well composed and performed, with interesting, intelligent lyrics.  What more could you want? Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2015 at 08:35
I am just now getting into Genesis. Like someone here once said, (paraphrase) Genesis just clicked with me. I get it now. I've been absorbing everything I can from Trespass though Duke.
Just amazing stuff. Musical Box blows my mind. Watcher of the Skies and Supper's Ready as well. So much more to dig into though. Should be fun

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2015 at 09:38
Originally posted by uduwudu uduwudu wrote:

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Once upon a time a rock and roll artist by the name of Ricky Nelson went on a come back tour, early '80s or so. He had a new album for his devoted followers. They turned up to the gigs but the album tanked. The fans only wanted what they knew from the '50s. They did not respect the artist just wanted repetitive audio wall paper.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2015 at 09:54
Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

I am just now getting into Genesis. Like someone here once said, (paraphrase) Genesis just clicked with me. I get it now. I've been absorbing everything I can from Trespass though Duke.
Just amazing stuff. Musical Box blows my mind. Watcher of the Skies and Supper's Ready as well. So much more to dig into though. Should be fun

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