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Modrigue
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Topic: Which Tangerine Dream album should I buy next? Posted: February 10 2017 at 08:13 |
Depends on what you're looking for:
- For "kosmische" contemplative music : Alpha Centauri, Zeit or Atem
- For long hypnotic pre-trance suites : Ricochet, Phaedra, Rubycon or Stratosfear (more melodic and accessible) This time period is usually referred as their golden age.
- For space rock : Force Majeure or Cyclone
- For retro-futuristic electro : Poland, Tangram, Hyperborea, White Eagle
Edited by Modrigue - February 10 2017 at 08:20
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grantman
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Posted: February 10 2017 at 07:26 |
rubycon or phaedra essential stuff
Edited by grantman - February 10 2017 at 07:27
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: February 10 2017 at 04:44 |
Rather late to join this possibly,but I have recently re-joined this site after an absence of some years,and I notice that no one has recommended any of the 21st century TD albums,a lot of which I think are really good. The 90' were the wasted TD years,largely,but I think Edgar regained his creativity in this century and made some rather excellent albums,worthy to rank among the best in the TD canon.Albums such as Finnigan's Wake,both the Chandra albums,Mota Atma,The Angel Of The West Window,The Five Atomic Seasons albums,and especially the last one Edgar managed to complete,Mala Kunia,which is one of my favourite TD albums of all time.
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Posted: September 15 2015 at 10:36 |
Cyclone is by far and away my favourite TD album. I'd recommend it to anyone
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verslibre
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Posted: September 08 2015 at 12:08 |
Except when it comes to analog!
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Posted: September 08 2015 at 11:27 |
Less is more
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verslibre
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Posted: September 08 2015 at 11:27 |
Intruder wrote:
I really dig three live TD albums - Encore, Logos and the double Warsaw Poland. |
I hope you didn't miss/skip Pergamon aka Quichotte, their 1980 live album and the very first appearance of Johannes Schmoelling. (The entire concert that album was taken from is on YouTube as well, and it's incredible).
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Posted: September 08 2015 at 11:24 |
Sean Trane wrote:
AFAIAC, everything up to Force Majeure is excellent (including the "different" cyclone), including the first two (EM & AC) and the two experimental ones (Zeit & Atem) and the two transtional ones (Phaedra & Rubycon)... Of course, the more pleasant (or easier to "get" are the ones from Ricochet until Tangram or White Eagle... (though TBH, I find that after Force Majeure, they had said most everthing there was to say).
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I find it interesting that someone would say that, considering the very next year, they had a line-up change that would stick for the next six years, one that created much of their greatest, most vibrant music, and the one with the overall best synthesizer sound canvas of all of them, being the time TD were given prototypes to play with. This is what their studio circa the early 1980s looked like.
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Posted: September 08 2015 at 10:49 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Flight123 wrote:
Intruder, isn't Ricochet a live album?
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Partly anyways, but with TD, live albums were always new stuff album, so they (Encore, Logos & Poland for ex) can be considered as studio albums recorded live
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Which is one of the best things about TD in the 70s. They never stood still. The gigs were merely a continuation of the journey - a new path - a new way of experimenting with a certain synth. I've mentioned it earlier on in this thread, but the Bootleg Box-set is surely testimony to this adventurous leg of their career.
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Posted: September 08 2015 at 09:44 |
Flight123 wrote:
Intruder, isn't Ricochet a live album?
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Partly anyways, but with TD, live albums were always new stuff album, so they (Encore, Logos & Poland for ex) can be considered as studio albums recorded live AFAIAC, everything up to Force Majeure is excellent (including the "different" cyclone), including the first two (EM & AC) and the two experimental ones (Zeit & Atem) and the two transtional ones (Phaedra & Rubycon)... Of course, the more pleasant (or easier to "get" are the ones from Ricochet until Tangram or White Eagle... (though TBH, I find that after Force Majeure, they had said most everthing there was to say).
Edited by Sean Trane - September 08 2015 at 09:46
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Flight123
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Posted: September 08 2015 at 09:25 |
Intruder, isn't Ricochet a live album?
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Intruder
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Posted: September 08 2015 at 08:35 |
I really dig three live TD albums - Encore, Logos and the double Warsaw Poland. My favorite studio album is Ricochet, but anything from the start until about 1982 will be a great listen.
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Posted: September 04 2015 at 12:10 |
I have bought Rubycon for £3.52 off Amazon.
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Imperial Zeppelin
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Posted: September 04 2015 at 11:38 |
Forget about Tangerine Dream man get some Schulze in yer veins
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Posted: September 04 2015 at 11:34 |
verslibre wrote:
condor wrote:
I have White Eagle and Exit as well as the track Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares. Any help would be gratefully appreciated.
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Exit is one of my favorite TD albums (it happened to be my introduction to them 30 years ago). That and White Eagle were recorded by the Franke, Froese, Schmoelling line-up. I'm not sure how large your budget is, but at the very least you want the other albums by the same line-up. The ones I would acquire first: Tangram, Thief, Wavelength, Poland. Pergamon Live at Palast der Republik (1980) the first studio live album Tangram (1980) the first FFS studio recording Thief (1981) an essential album, the first FFS original soundtrack, with a sound very close to Exit as it more or less utilizes the same sonic palette Logos Live at the Dominion (1982) second FFS live album, some of the music turned up on the band's soundtrack of The Keep Hyperborea (1983) Wavelength (1983) a brilliant score with fantastic sounds and a unique remix of "Remote Viewing" from Exit, called "Sunset Drive"; this was released last year as a remaster with restored artwork, new liner notes and much improved sound Poland The Warsaw Concert (rec. 1983, rel. 1984) hands down, one of the greatest live albums of all time four original suites of awe-inspiring music with melodies to spare, and some of the best sequences they ever laid down Le Parc (1985) more contemporary sounding but just as compositionally integral as its predecessors also the final recording by the FFS line-up (Johannes Schmoelling left, to be replaced by Paul Haslinger on 1986's Underwater Sunlight, another classic TD album) You mentioned you also like "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares," so naturally you need the entirety of Phaedra, the title suite of which is among TD's most famous excursions. I'm going to assume you'll be swallowed whole by the immersive brilliance that is Tangerine Dream, and you'll eventually want three other great studio albums of the '70s: Rubycon (1975), Stratosfear (1976), and Force Majeure, which ranks highly with man non-TD fans as well. All of these can be readily listened to in HD on YouTube. |
says it all pretty much
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Posted: August 31 2015 at 14:21 |
Dean wrote:
To I would consider smaller steps either forward or back in time using the PA album ratings as a guide and only picking albums with higher ratings than the two he started with, such as "Underwater Sunlight" or "Force Majeure" to name but two, but the suggestions made by others are just as valid.
I'd also consider/recommend some of their live albums from those two eras as these show a slightly different side to the band (to my ears they are more organic and less sterile than their studio offerings) - "Poland - the Warsaw Concert" and "Ricochet" are highly rated for good reason. Most (but not all) live TD albums are unlike live albums from any other band in that they feature music that cannot be found on studio albums. | ^Yep. Since I like multiple eras by the band (but loathe most of the albums largely influenced by Jerome), when someone tells me what they've heard (and presumably what they like), I emphasize the recordings by the same line-ups. He likes Hyperborea, so I'd never tell him to check out Electronic Meditation or The Dream Mixes.
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Posted: August 31 2015 at 10:10 |
I agree Luca.....and then again there is something uniquely Taj Mahal Travellers about Taj Mahal Travellers that you just don't get anywhere else. Some kind of magic mix of Terry Riley, Stockhausen and an ethereal take on Faust.
Edited by Guldbamsen - August 31 2015 at 10:10
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Posted: August 31 2015 at 09:57 |
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It is exceedingly difficult trying to help people who won't help you help them. -Basically just means that it is a lot easier trying to figure out what to recommend people, if they start out telling a little bit about themselves - maybe something that illustrates their tastes perchance? "Yeah I started out in the underground polka milieu and then later when I was abducted by a circus and had a surfpunk band as roomies - with trombones - and thought you know that it sounded cool with small dogs whining in the back of it all. I realized how much beauty there was in horrible sounds and immediately started my love affair with the avantguarde noise zeuhl crowd"
"Ok then, what you probably are looking for" I says then "is the sweet motherload from Japan. You need some Ruins, Boredoms, Taj Mahal Travellers, Amygdala, Merzbow, Date Course Pentagon Royal Garden and if you're really up with it and together with the cool breezy PA nihilist freedom fighting banjo convention, then you really need some Omoide Hatoba!!".
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Taj Mahal Travellers looks very similar to Zeit for me.
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octopus-4
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Posted: August 31 2015 at 09:54 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Depends what you want, if it's more stuff like White Eagle & Exit I'm not sure I can help. If you want what would be considered their classic Berlin School stuff go for
Phaedra Ricochet Stratosfear Rubycon
If you want their earlier more experiment psyche drone stuff
Zeit Atem |
^ this...those are all excellent choices by Nogbad. |
Exactly the essential...
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Posted: August 31 2015 at 09:28 |
It is exceedingly difficult trying to help people who won't help you help them. -Basically just means that it is a lot easier trying to figure out what to recommend people, if they start out telling a little bit about themselves - maybe something that illustrates their tastes perchance? "Yeah I started out in the underground polka milieu and then later when I was abducted by a circus and had a surfpunk band as roomies - with trombones - and thought you know that it sounded cool with small dogs whining in the back of it all. I realized how much beauty there was in horrible sounds and immediately started my love affair with the avantguarde noise zeuhl crowd"
"Ok then, what you probably are looking for" I says then "is the sweet motherload from Japan. You need some Ruins, Boredoms, Taj Mahal Travellers, Amygdala, Merzbow, Date Course Pentagon Royal Garden and if you're really up with it and together with the cool breezy PA nihilist freedom fighting banjo convention, then you really need some Omoide Hatoba!!".
Other possible benefits of online communication include fantastic pie recipes, Spanish lessons en route and my personal fave: free avocados in the men's room.
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The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
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