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dwarfed by Swilson? Among prog fans, maybe. But Radiohead are much more popular in general. And that maybe do to the fact that they're not mainly a prog band.
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SW is more talked about at PA because he is more prolific. We have had three Steven Wilson albums since Radiohead's last.
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Who's Steven Wilson?
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Originally posted by Imperial Zeppelin Imperial Zeppelin wrote:

dwarfed by Swilson? Among prog fans, maybe. But Radiohead are much more popular in general. And that maybe do to the fact that they're not mainly a prog band.
Of course.  Radiohead is a mainstreamy alt.rock band who were, at the peak of their careers, recorded one crossover prog album i.e. Kid A.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Michael678 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2015 at 08:47
i think it deals with inactivity regarding the band's studio albums; hopefully that changes in the next several months!
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I find the OP's supposition that Wilson is more popular to be laughable. In a general sense, Radiohead dwarf Wilson massively and it's only amongst parts of the very niche prog fanbase that the reverse could ever be considered true.

As for amongst prog fans, Wilson's music has steadily been moving more towards a 70's type sound for most of the last decade and he is very prolific, having an involvment with at least one album released every year, which does seem to cater to the large conservitive side of prog fandom whilst Radiohead are far more experimental whilst in the 2000's their albums have also been increasingly few and far between.

I should also point out that I hate both equilly and will never understand why either of them gained success.
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Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

I find the OP's supposition that Wilson is more popular to be laughable. In a general sense, Radiohead dwarf Wilson massively and it's only amongst parts of the very niche prog fanbase that the reverse could ever be considered true.

As for amongst prog fans, Wilson's music has steadily been moving more towards a 70's type sound for most of the last decade and he is very prolific, having an involvment with at least one album released every year, which does seem to cater to the large conservitive side of prog fandom whilst Radiohead are far more experimental whilst in the 2000's their albums have also been increasingly few and far between.

I should also point out that I hate both equilly and will never understand why either of them gained success.
In the context of the PA community, Swilson is Christ incarnate. It's laughable to compare the two with the hyperbole that PA members lavish upon Swilson's boring, unemotive and unimaginative solo work. This type of blind hero worship, ad nauseum, is not a prerequisite for appreciating Radiohead, or the lack thereof. Has the general population been more appreciative of Radiohead than the prog community? Hell yes. But that's not who my post was addressed to. To think otherwise is, however, is laughable.

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While Swilson can have some emotive music and delivery, a lot of it comes off as trying to hard - while a lot of Radiohead's music genuinely has more heart and soul to it. 

Appears Sventititotitiio doesn't like the concept that Radiohead are liked sometimes more than Swilson and throws out completely irrelevant nonsense like..

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Radiohead is a mainstreamy alt.rock band who were, at the peak of their careers, recorded one crossover prog album i.e. Kid A.

I mean both artists have had highs and lows, but it is a matter of preference all in all. I mean i've seen Swilson like 3 times live, and couldn't even sit through his new solo record. 

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

I find the OP's supposition that Wilson is more popular to be laughable. In a general sense, Radiohead dwarf Wilson massively and it's only amongst parts of the very niche prog fanbase that the reverse could ever be considered true.

As for amongst prog fans, Wilson's music has steadily been moving more towards a 70's type sound for most of the last decade and he is very prolific, having an involvment with at least one album released every year, which does seem to cater to the large conservitive side of prog fandom whilst Radiohead are far more experimental whilst in the 2000's their albums have also been increasingly few and far between.

I should also point out that I hate both equilly and will never understand why either of them gained success.
In the context of the PA community, Swilson is Christ incarnate. It's laughable to compare the two with the hyperbole that PA members lavish upon Swilson's boring, unemotive and unimaginative solo work. This type of blind hero worship, ad nauseum, is not a prerequisite for appreciating Radiohead, or the lack thereof. Has the general population been more appreciative of Radiohead than the prog community? Hell yes. But that's not who my post was addressed to. To think otherwise is, however, is laughable.


Your opening post could have done with more context to it then, after all I wasn't the only one to make the comment that Radiohead are very definitely more popular than Wilson is.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Svetonio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2015 at 12:29
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

(...) So, what happened to Radiohead? (...)
As almost all of 90s mainstreamy alt.rock bands, their heydays were not lasting long.
They keep a fanbase, but it's far from that hysteria during the time of their heydays.


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Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

I find the OP's supposition that Wilson is more popular to be laughable. In a general sense, Radiohead dwarf Wilson massively and it's only amongst parts of the very niche prog fanbase that the reverse could ever be considered true.

As for amongst prog fans, Wilson's music has steadily been moving more towards a 70's type sound for most of the last decade and he is very prolific, having an involvment with at least one album released every year, which does seem to cater to the large conservitive side of prog fandom whilst Radiohead are far more experimental whilst in the 2000's their albums have also been increasingly few and far between.

I should also point out that I hate both equilly and will never understand why either of them gained success.
In the context of the PA community, Swilson is Christ incarnate. It's laughable to compare the two with the hyperbole that PA members lavish upon Swilson's boring, unemotive and unimaginative solo work. This type of blind hero worship, ad nauseum, is not a prerequisite for appreciating Radiohead, or the lack thereof. Has the general population been more appreciative of Radiohead than the prog community? Hell yes. But that's not who my post was addressed to. To think otherwise is, however, is laughable.


Your opening post could have done with more context to it then, after all I wasn't the only one to make the comment that Radiohead are very definitely more popular than Wilson is.
It's amazing how PA members stay in a prog bubble when it's convenient and bust out of it, now and again, when it's not. However, I will make my posts clearer in the future.

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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

(...)

Appears Sventititotitiio doesn't like the concept that Radiohead are liked sometimes more than Swilson and throws out completely irrelevant nonsense like..

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Radiohead is a mainstreamy alt.rock band who were, at the peak of their careers, recorded one crossover prog album i.e. Kid A.
As you are one post-rock (and alt.rock in general) fan that's normal that your opinion about Radiohead is very high, even that that for you they were something more than 90s meainstreamy but good enough to be listenable an alt.rock band, with one crossover prog album Kid A released 15 years ago.


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Well.....I have never really cared for Radiohead....simply not my cup of tea, and the last few albums have not improved their status with me.
I do like Wilson though his last two solo things have not impressed me as much as others here at PA and the work he did in the past with Porcupine Tree was more to my liking.
All in all I could care less what happened to Radiohead.


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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

implying radiohead was ever good
I'll second that.
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Just a reminder, this was Radiohead at their heydays:
 
 
 
 
A mainstreamy alt. rock band.
 
 
 


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^Be careful pushing this Svetonio, it's just as easy to make a case that In Absentia is alt rock. And remember, both RH and Swilson are classified in PA as crossover prog.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Well.....I have never really cared for Radiohead....simply not my cup of tea, and the last few albums have not improved their status with me.
I do like Wilson though his last two solo things have not impressed me as much as others here at PA and the work he did in the past with Porcupine Tree was more to my liking.
All in all I could care less what happened to Radiohead.


They're not really my cup of tea either, Doc. They're just an interesting topic for a discussion to me as one as one is seen as prog while the other is not.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^Be careful pushing this Svetonio, it's just as easy to make a case that In Absentia is alt rock. And remember, both RH and Swilson are classified in PA as crossover prog.
In my opinion, Radiohead should be in Prog Related section.
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^I agree with you, along with Swilson. Clown

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^I agree with you, along with Swilson.
Nope.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Crossover prog.
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