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HackettFan
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Posted: August 30 2015 at 09:48 | |||
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HackettFan
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Posted: August 30 2015 at 09:59 | |||
The skewing in the poll results is there, but only very minor so far. Curiously, no one has selected the 'I sing and I write lyrics' choice. There is a flaw in the options in that some might do all three - write lyrics, play an instrument, and do vocals - and that's not there as an option. Hopefully people can let us know when that pertains to them in a post.
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Disparate Times
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 12 2015 Location: Rust belt Status: Offline Points: 261 |
Posted: August 30 2015 at 10:15 | |||
Option number two should read instrument(s) for those of us who do it all
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: August 30 2015 at 11:07 | |||
I was a poet/lyricist for decades, but hung up the guitar professionally about fifteen years ago, and have since concentrated on prose fiction.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
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Dean
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Posted: August 30 2015 at 21:35 | |||
Yes and No. I wrote to the particular singer's voice that each song was intended for. I knew the range and ability of all of my chosen singers as three of them sang in a band and fourth I'd heard sing karaoke on several occasions. One of the singers was classically trained and could sing anything from classical through to metal - I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to sing the parts I wrote for her, at least not without some serious coaching (and in a different octave of course) - my "inner voice" does not have this limitation so writing for a female singer whose range far exceeded mine wasn't too difficult.
My frustration arose from the fact that I wasn't hiring, it was all done on favours and good will. I think if I had offered payment I may have been more pushy in getting everything done.
Yup, pretty much, it was easier to slink back into the attic to create instrumental albums than try and organise more recording sessions for vocals. I recorded three instrumental albums during the six months I spent trying to record the vocals for that one album.
Thanks Todd, you are too kind. I've posted demo's of two of the songs in my "cacophony of light" thread if you're interested in hearing them.
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 30 2015 at 21:57 | |||
I had always been uncomfortable writing lyrics.
Not anymore. Age gives you experience, which gives you perspective, which colors your voice. What I'm writing now feels more genuine than anything I've written before- that's not to imply that previous things were not genuine, far from it. It's just that now I don't have to try so hard. |
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 30 2015 at 21:58 | |||
And what the hell. I'll be a singer in this poll.
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progaardvark
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Posted: August 31 2015 at 08:06 | |||
Funny you should write about a hippopotamus. I've also tackled the hippopotamus... I write lyrics, sing, and compose music on computer using a combination of samples and software synths. I can't play an instrument per se, but I have used them to produce soundscapes relevant to what I was composing. My guitar soloing is atrocious, but with sound editing software I can turn it into something slightly more interesting. The above track is one of those rare ones where I had a guest guitarist and vocalist. Both guests dramatically improved the track. My music is strictly a hobby.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: August 31 2015 at 08:41 | |||
I play an instrument, sing, and write lyrics.
I find some difficulty writing lyrics, reconciling the kinds of words I hear over the song, the things I envision when I hear the song, and the things I personally feel a need to express. The process of lyric writing is often about discovering the connection between the three and the best thing to do is just to write all of them down. Write all the ideas. With the sound-based lines, you can keep writing similar sounding lines for each one, until you have a couple that connect. That's often where I start. It's getting better for me, but I'm not as practiced as I should be. I view vocals as much acting as it is playing an instrument. Lyrics and delivery are definitely a part of that. "Poetic" lyrics and technically correct vocals do not a good frontman make, for me, at least. It doesn't always matter if you can sing traditionally. Sometimes a good dramatization of the lyrics will do. Sometimes traditional vocals are a part of that kind of acting; sometimes they hinder it. It all depends on what you're saying and how you're saying it. Combinations will create different emotional effects (for instance, shrieking "fluffy baby bunny" is, most of the time, going to be taken as either absurd or sarcastic). |
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: August 31 2015 at 09:48 | |||
I'm a poet. Some of my poems became lyrics. Not the best however.
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HackettFan
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Posted: August 31 2015 at 22:32 | |||
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HackettFan
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Posted: August 31 2015 at 23:02 | |||
Super Luminal Pachyderm genetic poo I enjoyed this truly. The vocal sounded like a mixture of Amon Düül II and Frank Zappa. You had what seems to represent the sound of a rhino at the beginning. Do they really sound something like that, or is it how you imagine it? I'm reminded now of Adrian Belew's song, Sexy Rhino. He made up a rhino sound on the guitar and later found out they sound nothing like what he thought. |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: August 31 2015 at 23:47 | |||
I used to write words and music, but I can't sing for . But in all honesty, I've never written one decent song, mostly because I did not have a grasp on the songwriting basics (lyrical theme, melody, refrain, chord progressions, etc.).
I haven't checked into the Composers/Songwriters Association and Improvisation threads in months. I might never go back to that. So, I've went with Option #4.
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progaardvark
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Posted: September 01 2015 at 07:52 | |||
Not having ever heard what a rhino sounds like, I'd have to say maybe not. Miles Walsh did the guitar work, so I'd have ask him what he was thinking of at the time. The two of us never discussed the idea of the song, though we did spend much time talking about poop craters. I had a basic track in place with a rough guide vocal and sent it to him and he came up with all the guitar parts in about a week. We mostly discussed the positioning of them and the mix. I would describe my lyrics as a helicopter without rotors operated by a large lasagna.
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HackettFan
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Posted: September 01 2015 at 22:41 | |||
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HackettFan
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progaardvark
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Posted: September 02 2015 at 11:05 | |||
Thank you for the kind words. I strive to improve my incomprehensibility.
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O666
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Posted: September 02 2015 at 12:41 | |||
I play keyboard and I write lyrics in Farsi over 30 years.
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Meltdowner
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Posted: September 02 2015 at 12:59 | |||
I play some instruments and I don't write lyrics nor sing, but I don't care much about lyrics
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: September 02 2015 at 14:09 | |||
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