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Points: 11400 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2015 at 16:13
Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

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I saw Christian Prog category in some of music sites and blogs. I really want to know what is this? Is it a musical style? Is this about lyrics? or musicians? or listeners? What is definition of CPR? Thanks 


It's about the lyrics mostly I suspect. For those who have a strong religious belief, it may be important for them to buy music with the right kind of lyrics, at least in earlier days the christian music/books/games etc. scene was a distinct, separate and often commercially interesting marketplace. I'd guess that Christian prog is a better tag to be given than, say, gospel. In my youth all music with Christian lyrics were sorted under the gospel tag in the music stores, no matter what style it was. Unless it was a successful mainstream artist of the kind that hit the top 100 sales charts on a regular basis of course.
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Points: 17480 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2015 at 16:19
Like any other music...some of it is good and some of it is not good.
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Points: 1313 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2015 at 17:48
If it is well done, I'll listen to it, may it be christian, hindu, pagan or whatever. Back to the the topic: I listen to Prog Rock at least for ten years and I have never ever heard that CPR-term-thing. Sounds a little bit pathetic...
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Points: 1884 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 02:04
Originally posted by Badabec Badabec wrote:

If it is well done, I'll listen to it, may it be christian, hindu, pagan or whatever. Back to the the topic: I listen to Prog Rock at least for ten years and I have never ever heard that CPR-term-thing. Sounds a little bit pathetic...
 
I am atheist and I not need this term, but I see and respect, that for christians can to be some lyrics problematic or that they yearns form christian themes
 
 
Music = Any progressive rock (without distinction in subgenre) + 
Lyrics = Any christian or not anti-christian themes (without distinction sub-denomination)
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I have heard of Christian Rock long before Christian Prog. I think I have also an album of Christian Rock bought in the 90s but I don't remember the band name. For what I remember it was just about lyrics, there was nothing different from other 90s rock bands in the music.
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One of the great things about progressive rock is that it breaks out of the musical forms which limit you to sex, drugs, and rock n roll as your lyrical subject matter.

It's ambitious music on a grand scale, and it needs ambitious themes on a grand scale.  Life, the Universe, and Everything.  It's no surprise that religious themes have been part of it from the beginning.

King Crimson is a synonym for the devil.  Yes tackled the Buddha with "Close to the Edge," the New Testament with "And You and I," and took Hindu inspiration for "Tales from Topographic Oceans."

Genesis did a surrealist Christian apocalypse in "Supper's Ready," then drew the Christ-image of the Lamb into an epic journey of personal death and resurrection in their longest album.  As has been mentioned, Kansas would repeatedly visit religious themes, until Steve Walsh got sick of it.

Can Christian music be instrumental?  Can Hindu music be Mahavishnu Orchestra?

I do not like the CPR label, however.  It seems like as soon as you label music as intentionally religious, you suddenly are playing with one hand tied behind your back.  Neal Morse made much better Christian music in Spock's Beard than he ever did on his own, because he had to restrain his instinct to be a preacher.
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Points: 1884 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 02:22
Originally posted by freyacat freyacat wrote:

I do not like the CPR label, however.  
 
By my opinion label CPR can to be useful for christian listeners as additional information on album cover (similar to ECO label on some products): it is prog and lyrics is OK from christian point of view
 
But if christian artists and producents overshoot it and christian message will be more significant then prog music, in short time label CPR can to be warning for all   LOL


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Points: 12348 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 09:48
Originally posted by WeepingElf WeepingElf wrote:

I understand "Christian prog" to mean prog with Christian lyrics or concepts, such as much of Neal Morse's solo works, or Iona.


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Neal Morse Prog. 
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Points: 20450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 10:02
But is Neal Morse Prog better than James Blunt Prog?
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Points: 1505 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 10:04
Prog for Christians? Peh. Music shouldn't be under any beliefs. Unless it's gospel or something.
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Points: 20450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 10:06
Gospel Prog! Great idea!
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Points: 1884 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 10:11
Here is "Virtual Christian Progressive Rock Round Table" or "discussion with music journalist Steve Morley and five Christian progressive rock musicians" 

http://archives.umc.org/interior.asp?ptid=1&mid=5362
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Points: 20450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 10:12
@aglasshouse: Don't be hasty. What do think the Great Gig In The Sky is? LOL

Edited by SteveG - August 31 2015 at 10:18
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Points: 2618 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 10:17

After review your posts in this thread IMO Christian Prog is not a Progressive Rock sub genre and we cant make a NEW sub genre based on Lyrics alone !!
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Points: 1884 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 10:51
Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

After review your posts in this thread IMO Christian Prog is not a Progressive Rock sub genre and we cant make a NEW sub genre based on Lyrics alone !!


By my opinion label CPR can be used in artists biography in case, when it is explicit artists' selfidentification
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Points: 1505 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 11:12
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

@aglasshouse: Don't be hasty. What do think the Great Gig In The Sky is? LOL
Well I never really liked that one either.
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Points: 2618 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2015 at 12:29
One of the Progressive Rock important specifics is instrumental side of music IMO. I know some Prog fans (like me) that don't understand Italian or French languages BUT love many of Italian and French band and music. I want to talk about myself. I love Osaana , Nemo , PFM , Lazuli , Cherry Five , Ange etc. I don't note to lyrics and lyrics isn't important for me. 
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