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Topic: Official prog charts
Posted: September 03 2015 at 16:33

The Official Progressive Albums Chart have been launched.

First top 10 list:

1	CURRENTS	TAME IMPALA
2	DRONES	MUSE
3	AMUSED TO DEATH	ROGER WATERS
4	SHOCKWAVE SUPERNOVA	JOE SATRIANI
5	THE RACE FOR SPACE	PUBLIC SERVICE BROADCASTING
6	SOL INVICTUS	FAITH NO MORE
7	UNDERWORLD	SYMPHONY X
8	THE ENDLESS RIVER	PINK FLOYD
9	STUPID THINGS THAT MEAN THE WORLD	TIM BOWNESS
10	ENDLESS FORMS MOST BEAUTIFUL	NIGHTWISH

Edited by Windhawk - September 03 2015 at 16:34

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Posted: September 03 2015 at 17:45

Thanks a lot . Thumbs Up

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Posted: September 03 2015 at 18:30

I love psych pop but the new Tame Impala album is just dance inspired pop rock with little psych. It's great ear candy for those with a musical sweet tooth, but man, there's no prog on it. Whatever these Prog Mag guys are puffing on is a lot stronger than what I've got.

Edited by SteveG - September 03 2015 at 19:20

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Posted: September 03 2015 at 20:16

Have to agree Steve, not impressed at all by Tame Impala, sounds like its got a bloody clap track, I was certain that was a drum machine, apparently he's a real drummer, he sure plays like a drum machine. This is lightweight pop with a 'hint' of psyche though it would be an embarrassment to mention them in the same paragraph with CAN or Amon Duul II. Awful.

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Posted: September 03 2015 at 20:20

Ahh, an Official Prog Chart - sure to lead to `XXX artist/band' is not really prog' arguments for generations to come!

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Posted: September 03 2015 at 20:36

Is this what selling-out looks like?

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Posted: September 03 2015 at 21:55

Most of the CDs that come with the Prog Magazine I don't think are progressive rock, rather alternative hard rock. Occasionally there is some rock with prog influences or actual prog.

I suppose at least it's something new to check out.

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Posted: September 03 2015 at 23:41

11. HIT ME BABY ONE MORE TIME EPIGNOSIS

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 04:32

I did't know anything about this site and mag and I say thanks to Windhawk for introduce this (for me). I like new sites and blogs about music.

As you guys said this chart CAN'T be a measure for Prog fans. I can't understand OFFICIAL deffinition in this case. How they choose these albums? What is Official Prog albums in their book ? What is their " Progressive " deffinition ?

Finally there are one strange artist in this chart : Tim Bowness !! I'm happy for Tim. Congratulation Mr. Bowness !! You are in OFFICIAL Top Ten Progressive chart.

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 06:49

O666 wrote:

I did't know anything about this site and mag and I say thanks to Windhawk for introduce this (for me). I like new sites and blogs about music.

Finally there are one strange artist in this chart : Tim Bowness !! I'm happy for Tim. Congratulation Mr. Bowness !! You are in OFFICIAL Top Ten Progressive chart.

Official comes from the background of the suppliers of the chart:

The Official Charts Company (OCC), previously called the Chart Information Network (CIN) and then The Official UK Charts Company, compiles various "official" UK record charts, including the UK Singles Chart, the UK Albums Chart, the UK Singles Downloads Chart and the UK Album Downloads Chart, as well as genre-specific and music video charts. The OCC produces its charts by gathering and combining sales data from retailers through market researchers Millward Brown, and claims to cover 99% of the singles market and 95% of the album market, and aims to collect data from any retailer who sells more than 100 chart items per week.^[1]

The OCC is operated jointly by the British Phonographic Industry and the Entertainment Retailers Association ERA (formerly the British Association of Record Dealers (BARD)). Since 1 July 1997, CIN and then the OCC have compiled the official charts. Prior to this date, the charts were produced by a succession of market research companies, beginning with the British Market Research Bureau in 1969, and later by Gallup. Before the production of the "official" charts, various less comprehensive charts were produced, most notably by newspaper/magazine New Musical Express (NME) which began its chart in 1952; some of these older charts (including NME‍ 's earliest singles charts) are now part of the official OCC canon.

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 06:58

Epignosis wrote:

11. HIT ME BABY ONE MORE TIME EPIGNOSIS

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 07:12

Seven Impale > Tame Impala

http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/

wtf

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 07:27

This chart is more relevant:

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&syears=2015&scountries=&sminratings=0&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=57&y=3

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 07:40

Well, I might not be too into a lot of what's at the top of this chart, but I find that's usually the case with these things anyway. Let's look on the bright side here: this is more evidence that the subgenre is healthy enough that mainstream musical outlets are having to take it into account.

Of course, it should be pointed out that this doesn't necessarily represent a new massive surge of prog support amongst the listening audience so much as it's a consequence of the continued fragmentation of musical tastes - in these Internet days where people can track down obscure stuff which speaks directly to them much more easily there's less justification for there being one, single, solitary music chart because that implies a commonality of taste which no longer exists (and was perhaps always overstated even when the charts were more influential on pop culture than they were). But the fact that our breed of music is strong enough to merit its own chart is something to celebrate at least.

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 08:03

Windhawk wrote:

O666 wrote:

Official comes from the background of the suppliers of the chart:

Thanks Again. This post answer to many of my questions (not all of them) but its enough for me. (IMO) PA is the "BEST" Reference for Progressive Rock fans.

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 11:19

Epignosis wrote:

11. HIT ME BABY ONE MORE TIME EPIGNOSIS

...word.....

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 13:27

Whoa. That sort of made me sick. Viewing their list, I felt like I got sent back to second grade. I'll stick with Prog Archives lists.

Edited by omphaloskepsis - September 04 2015 at 13:31

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 15:50

Not too surprised by the albums on the list. Anything that has a mote of prog will probably show up on the list, and the more commercially friendly ones will be at the top (e.g. Tame Impala).

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 17:03

Presumably the die hard fans of blues, country, rap, hip-hop, techno etc. etc. will say exactly the same things about the various official charts catering for their genres :-)

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Posted: September 04 2015 at 17:18

Just saw this on BBC news, and came straight to PA to see who's in it this week. I think there's going to be a notable problem, which has already happened with Tame Impala, where disputes about what is progressive enough (or conventionally "prog" enough) will break out. Nonetheless, Currents is not a prog album, from what I've heard anyway Confused

Also shows again how sad it is that enough advertisements can convince people that such a mediocre record is actually worth buying instead of 100s of other brilliant lesser-known albums.

Edited by Xonty - September 04 2015 at 17:20