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Rednight
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Topic: Classic album FINAL!!! Pawn Hearts v. Octopus Posted: October 07 2015 at 10:28 |
Pawn Hearts for its in-your-face, no holds barred assault on the senses ("How cliche!").
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 09:44 |
Unhip is the new hip
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 09:12 |
Atavachron wrote:
...Artist preference seems to go in waves around here. When I arrived in '06, the Vanders were the tragically hip band to like, then Magma had a big period as did Avant-garde...
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Oh no I'm tragically unhip - digging Magma (and avant-garde) as we were all still living in 2006
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 07:37 |
Svetonio wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
I like the vocals with both GG and VdGG. |
Personally, I could imagine 70s prog without GG vocals, but without VdGG i.e. Hammill's vocals, that picture of 70s prog never could be complete. |
Nor would GG's vocals IMHO... the vocals on Acquiring The Taste for instance There are some wonderful harmony vocals on that one. In general... GG had some harsh sounding, but also some delicate vocals.
But yes, VdGG... the vocals are extremely important in the music. True... Essential to the 1970's. |
And also that Hammill's poetry is really great.
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Definitely, yes.
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Svetonio
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 04:14 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
I like the vocals with both GG and VdGG. |
Personally, I could imagine 70s prog without GG vocals, but without VdGG i.e. Hammill's vocals, that picture of 70s prog never could be complete. |
Nor would GG's vocals IMHO... the vocals on Acquiring The Taste for instance There are some wonderful harmony vocals on that one. In general... GG had some harsh sounding, but also some delicate vocals.
But yes, VdGG... the vocals are extremely important in the music. True... Essential to the 1970's. |
And also that Hammill's poetry is really great.
Edited by Svetonio - October 06 2015 at 04:33
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Rando
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Posted: October 06 2015 at 01:26 |
Well, very true artist preference seems to shift with the wind from one day to the next here - I love both of these great albums equally making it rather difficult to pick one over the other - even down to their beautiful album covers (vinyl) - I have the Octopus original die-cut Jar album cover- But today (maybe its my mood, or the change of weather), I'm picking Octopus! I think it was The Advent of Panurge that did it...
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 21:56 |
^ True-- people have actually heard of Gentle Giant which is amazing for a second tier prog band.
Artist preference seems to go in waves around here. When I arrived in '06, the Vanders were the tragically hip band to like, then Magma had a big period as did Avant-garde, Marillion, and RPI .
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Dellinger
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 21:40 |
I have got the perception that GG always get's more than just a little love on this site (as well as VDGG), which I believe they deserve... well, GG may be hit or miss for me, but they did work hard to become the prog legends they are.
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 21:13 |
Nice to see Gentle Giant getting a little love.
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Horizons
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 20:24 |
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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poeghost
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 19:58 |
I voted for Octopus.
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twosteves
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 19:12 |
I voted for it but can't believe GG won---thought VDGG would win everything on this site.
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Svetonio
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 19:09 |
aglasshouse wrote:
Octopus is one of the greatest albums ever made. |
Octopus is GG's best LP in my opinion.
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t d wombat
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 19:01 |
Hey Micky .... is it finished or does this drag on for another week ? Can we cheer yet is what I need to know ? I confess I'm finding it hard to believe that PH was vanquished.
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: October 02 2015 at 01:22 |
'Pawn Hearts' An all-time favourite
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Icarium
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Posted: October 01 2015 at 07:44 |
+ vs I go for octopus
Edited by Icarium - October 01 2015 at 07:45
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Blacksword
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Posted: October 01 2015 at 07:25 |
It's a bit tricky this one. I love the first side of Pawn Hearts, but can't stand Plague. Octopus is far more consistent but generally the highest points are lower than that of PH, and generally I don't like GG.
However, I think I'll have to vote for Octopus this time round. Plague is simply too annoying.
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aglasshouse
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Posted: October 01 2015 at 07:00 |
^Oh jeez, good point. Anywho I enjoy Octopus slightly more. Man-Erg almost made VDGG better. Alas though this is The Advent of Panurge not the Advent of Man-Erg.
Edited by aglasshouse - October 01 2015 at 07:02
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: October 01 2015 at 06:50 |
^ That may be so, but so is Pawn Hearts.
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aglasshouse
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Posted: October 01 2015 at 06:40 |
Octopus is one of the greatest albums ever made.
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