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Topic ClosedModern album FINAL!!! Hybris v. Spirit of Eden

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Poll Question: pick the winner of the 2015 PA's modern album tournament
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 16:26
Just for the record: I don't hate either PT or SW - I just don't think they are the best thing since sliced bread as far as modern progressive rock is concerned. As to Hogarth-era Marillion, I know too little about them to judge, let alone bash them. What I have heard did not turn me off, but neither did it rock my world.

Anyway, I haven't been interested in "what is/is not prog?" debates for years, and am much more concerned about what I like and what I don't.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 16:15
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Hybris.  Gave Spirit of Eden its first listen today.  It was OK, but I have no idea how it is even being discussed on a prog site.  How in the world has it made it this far in the tournament?????
Depends on how you define "prog", but we are not having this conversation, are we?
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

... but I couldn't help but think that the people who are praising this album are the same people who hate Porcupine Tree and Hogarth era Marillion.
Trust me: I don't know a lot about Marillion, nor do I hate PT.




Edited by Dayvenkirq - September 26 2015 at 16:17
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 16:09
^^I absolutely adore PT and SWilson and I voted for double talkBig smile 

I still don't get the huge praise that Hybris gets - although it did help bring prog back on the map when it first came out. If I want a modern version of King Crimson, I'd much rather put on some Nebelnest or Guapo's 5 Suns.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 16:08
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

...but I couldn't help but think that the people who are praising this album are the same people who hate Porcupine Tree and Hogarth era Marillion.

Out of interest, what difference would it make if they were?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 15:12
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Hybris.  Gave Spirit of Eden its first listen today.  It was OK, but I have no idea how it is even being discussed on a prog site.  How in the world has it made it this far in the tournament?????


Well, there are lots of people who don't think Rush are prog either Wink...
It wouldn't be polite for me to share my opinion of those people. 

I didn't dislike the Talk Talk album, I just didn't find myself overly impressed with it either.  I will be the first to admit that one listen doesn't make me an expert so maybe it will impress more with future listens, but I couldn't help but think that the people who are praising this album are the same people who hate Porcupine Tree and Hogarth era Marillion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 14:57
Hybris!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 14:51
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Hybris.  Gave Spirit of Eden its first listen today.  It was OK, but I have no idea how it is even being discussed on a prog site.  How in the world has it made it this far in the tournament?????
 
By being one of the greatest albums ever recorded...?
 
That said, it's not an album to grok on one listen. My first spin, shortly after it came out, didn't make much impression on me either. I shelved it, but came back to it periodically, and eventually it clicked. I'm enduringly pleased that I made the effort with it.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 14:48
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Hybris.  Gave Spirit of Eden its first listen today.  It was OK, but I have no idea how it is even being discussed on a prog site.  How in the world has it made it this far in the tournament?????


Well, there are lots of people who don't think Rush are prog either Wink...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 14:43
Talk Talk are not prog. They are too good to be prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 14:14
Hybris.  Gave Spirit of Eden its first listen today.  It was OK, but I have no idea how it is even being discussed on a prog site.  How in the world has it made it this far in the tournament?????
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 14:04
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 13:25
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Is Talk Talk prog? 

Not really.

Hybris for me by a fair way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 12:27
Fairly nice vs. Tedious. Easy win for Hybris.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 12:23
Don't like either. Will go with Hybris.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 11:44
Hybris is strong and tight, but Spirit of Eden is overwhelmingly beautiful, and constructed with the utmost skill and care.

Edited by LearsFool - September 26 2015 at 12:31
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 11:35
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 10:37
Spirit of Eden. One of the best I discovered on the modern polls (I didn't listen to half of the albums though Embarrassed).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 10:30
Talk Talk is not even Prog.

BTW: Retro Prog is a silly tag, it's only Symphonic Prog, a genre that still lives today.

There's retro Pop because Pop tends to have a short lapse of life, but Prog is made to last, so something recorded 20 years after the genre started is not retro.

It's like calling Classical Era as retro Baroque.

Hybris is PURE PROG.
            
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 10:24
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Is Talk Talk prog? 
Of course not. Spirit of Eden is a great album of 80s Art Rock (70s Art Rock had not contain that ambiental element). Actually, this is a "prog vs art rock" (i.e. "progressive rock album vs non progressive rock album") poll.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2015 at 10:15
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Is Talk Talk prog? 


is it a clone of 70's prog.. nope. 
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