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emigre80 
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 09:35 |
Based upon the "who are we? ages" poll, I got to wondering if the trope about prog fans being over-intellectual is really true. If you are over 25, please choose the appropriate level based upon your current education status. For those under 25, please choose the aspirational level: in other words, if you are still in high school but plan on going to college, graduate school or professional school you get to that point in your life, then pick that. (and before everyone weighs in, I know that education level does not necessarily equate with intellectual level, but it's education level I'm looking for here. If you are a genius who dropped out of high school, make up your own damn poll.)
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 09:48 |
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In US terms, I completed a Master's Degree (though I was not educated in the US). I also attended a Ph.D course for three years, but did not complete it due to various reasons.
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 09:54 |
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Never finished high school YET!!!!!!
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emigre80
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 09:56 |
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^I've got my master's degree (US) as well, and am working on completing my doctorate. Which is looking iffy at the moment because I'm here creating a prog poll rather than working on a long overdue paper on the French Revolution.
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emigre80
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 09:57 |
 Michael678 wrote:
Never finished high school YET!!!!!! |
So read the instructions and go aspirational!
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 10:04 |
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No choice for technical training schools? Or are you considering these under the "college/university" choice. Many people now go beyond a high school diploma but in programs that are not traditional 4 year college/university. More will be doing so in the future I suspect.
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 10:18 |
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I finished my licentiate's degree last year. I don't feel like continuing right now, probably in a few years.
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emigre80
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 10:21 |
Finnforest wrote:
No choice for technical training schools? Or are you considering these under the "college/university" choice. Many people now go beyond a high school diploma but in programs that are not traditional 4 year college/university. More will be doing so in the future I suspect.
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it depends where you live. I would put technical training under college/university but maybe I just like techies.
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 10:26 |
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OK, will do, stuff like dental hygienists, pet care assistant, CAD drafting, automotive....many kids will go to schools that teach job skills to get a certification in that skill but will not attend "college."
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 10:30 |
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I'm under 25, and I have BS in Computer Science (with focus on Games and Simulation), so, I guess, I can't vote.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 05 2015 at 11:08
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 10:31 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I'm under 25, and I have BS in Computer Science, so, I guess, I can't vote. |
if you intend to stop there, vote for "completed college." if you plan to go to law school in 20 years, then choose that option.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 10:54 |
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^ The former it is.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 04 2015 at 10:54
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Ozark Soundscape
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 10:56 |
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I didn't read the OP so I picked the first option (sophomore in high school). I aspire to have a bachelor's degree but I really have no idea what life will bring me in the next six years, I could totally see myself finishing college, but I could also totally see myself dropping out of high school, it all depends on what the future holds for me.
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 11:00 |
Don't drop out Andrew, get that diploma! (sorry for the sudden impulse to throw old guy advice at you) 
Edited by Finnforest - October 04 2015 at 11:00
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 11:04 |
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University degree Mathematics
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 11:16 |
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"If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want an education, go to the library." -Frank Zappa
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 11:25 |
Finnforest wrote:
Don't drop out Andrew, get that diploma!
(sorry for the sudden impulse to throw old guy advice at you)
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Ha don't worry, that would only be under very dire or very lucky circumstances.
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 12:17 |
Ozark Soundscape wrote:
I didn't read the OP so I picked the first option (sophomore in high school). I aspire to have a bachelor's degree but I really have no idea what life will bring me in the next six years, I could totally see myself finishing college, but I could also totally see myself dropping out of high school, it all depends on what the future holds for me. |
Just a tad off the topic: The future won't do magic for you, Andrew.
- In my personal experience it's really important for a person to pick the right path for him-/herself, especially in your age, Andrew. You don't want to choose a "career" that will make you increasingly angry, bitter, and resentful with yourself. Go to different career fairs. Get a feel for people and where they work. See if this is something you are gonna be comfortable with.
- Build tolerance towards menial jobs ('cause you'll have to start somewhere or somehow support yourself).
- Build a real, physical community around yourself. Make some friends, associates, whatever. Even if it's not something "serious". Even if you are planning to get into music industry, don't give up on people and connections.
If you don't do any of those things, your future will be looking darker, and darker, and darker. I mean every word of this because some day life will really bite you in the a$$. And the day after that. And the day after that.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 04 2015 at 12:22
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 12:44 |
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^great advice Andrey. I remember reading a quote a few years back that I found somewhat disturbing, but it seems to be true in many cases.
"Average isn't good enough anymore"
Employers expects much more than in years gone by. I guess while I understand that, it disturbs me because there are always going to be people who are not "Super-typeA-man/woman" and they should be able to earn an honest living with own attributes/personality too.
Edited by Finnforest - October 04 2015 at 12:44
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 13:24 |
I dropped out of college after failing Calculus three straight semesters...  But I am in a profession that generally requires a degree (software development), and without being too vain I have to say I am the best developer on my team of 20... so... I do often wonder if I should try for my degree, but I'm 46 and work takes up enough of my day. And I've been at my company for almost 25 years (19 in IT), so its not like I need it to progress at my job. My boss doesn't have a degree either. I'm all for higher education, but I do often wonder if its pushed a bit much as the solution to employment issues. As far as I am aware I make more money than all of my siblings and step-siblings, many of who do have degrees.
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Who are we? Education levels