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I still don't know Drama, I only bought Tormato a few weeks ago.

If you don't like KC's first album don't give up on them, every album is very different. Oh, and I think you'll learn eventually there are no final opinions about music Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2015 at 11:28
well, when you move on to "In the court of the Crimson King" don't be discouraged by "Moonchild". opinions on that track vary greatly. BaldFriede (my spouse) and I belong to the small fraction of people who love that track


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Padraic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2015 at 11:36
Just glad to see young people continue to enjoy this music.

When you feel like you're ready for new adventures, try Gentle Giant and Van der Graaf Generator.
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Yes I'd like to try that too, names I see passing all the time. Also Jethro Tull TAAB is on my list.


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you should eventually travel into the adventurous country of Krautrock as well; some Krautrock artists are listed under "Electronic" because early Krautrock dabbled a lot in this.

albums like "Känguru" by Guru Guru, "Phallus Dei","Yeti" and"Tanz der Lemminge" by Amon Düül 2, "Schwingungen" or "Join Inn" by Ash Ra Tempel, "Phaedra" by Tangerine Dream or "Hoodoo Man" by Birth Control or Faust's self-titled first album will show you what an extremely varied genre Krautrock actually is.

but a word of warning ahead: this journey is really for the advanced listener. early Krautrock is often very experimental


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^ If he doesn't like the early Pink Floyd music, he will probably find Krautrock way too strange Tongue
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Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

^ If he doesn't like the early Pink Floyd music, he will probably find Krautrock way too strange Tongue

agreed. and Krautrock can be a lot stranger than early Pink Floyd


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Originally posted by DDPascalDD DDPascalDD wrote:

I'm really blown away by Yes' Drama! I expected not too much but what an astonishing sound, so creative and so much layers and sounds. Machine Messiah and Into the Lens are my favourites. I think I'll give this one an 8.5, a little less than Fragile and the same as Meddle is my opninion as you can see.


Nice to see that you enjoyed Drama, one of my favorite Yes albums and one of their most underrated. The crushing opening riff in Machine Messiah is easily the heaviest thing Yes has ever done.
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

^ If he doesn't like the early Pink Floyd music, he will probably find Krautrock way too strange Tongue

agreed. and Krautrock can be a lot stranger than early Pink Floyd

So true...I have been really into CAN of late. Like KC, I am starting to really appreciate what CAN was doing. I would have to say I prefer CAN over KC....The music, lyrics, the jazz, the funk, the psychedelic of CAN is very appealing.

Strange music not for the faint of heart....LOL


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^ And even Can is quite accessible compared to many Krautrock bands Tongue
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^ I agree Sam....


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a few examples of Krautrock. mark that these examples give an impression but are in no way representative for Krautrock because it is an extremely varied genre. also mark that for someone who starts his journey into prog like you this may be a little too much to take


















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I think I'll try that tomorrow! No idea what I'll think about it, but though my main problem with early Floyd was that it was too... well dark. But it's been a long time listening to it so I may appreciate it more now, though krautrock first now! Big smile
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the tracks of Amon Düül 2 and Tangerine Dream are quite dark. the Amon Düül 2 song is about a mad child molester. these are the translated lyrics:

child molester:

"You let the children come to me,
in white gowns and with flowers in their hair,
I took away their virginity,
can't tell you how wonderful it was"

angry crowd:

"serve the good, the beautiful, the true,
whip him, he already quivers for it.
let him feel the sweet torment,
he craves so much for shame and dishonor
yes"

child molester:

"we danced ring around the rosy together
and sang a wonderful song.
the smallest one began crying for her mother,
I softly speared her with my member"

angry crowd:

"come thee all and look at him,
his head shaved bald and still he smiles.
let's get to work, it's easily done,
hang him, that lusty Moloch,
yes"

some extreme lyrics indeed


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I'm not a big Krautrock fan but ADII is very solid.  Phallus Dei, Yeti, Tanz der Lemminge, and Wolf City are all excellent and worth checking out.
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Originally posted by DDPascalDD DDPascalDD wrote:

Also Jethro Tull TAAB is on my list.


My second favourite album of all time and the best song of all time. This is the epitome of prog., and I know most will agree with me.
There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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I gave krautrock a real try, but I'm sorry, it's not something I want to listen a lot. But thanks for the effort! 
I'm getting some more into classical music too today, Mozart's 40 really inspired me in the epic I'm starting to make.
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^You will get to it eventually. Nobody expects you to get it on the first try. I used to find bands like Faust and Can annoying but now both have an album in my top ten,
There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldFriede Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2015 at 15:02
Don't give up om Krautrock so quickly. It is not an easy genre to get into in the beginning.

But you might like Amon Düül 2's "Wolf City" or "Vive la Trance"; they are not so difficult to get into. They are still a bit strange, but not THAT strange.




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I've listened it. Again. Again. 
And it does nothing to me. Just like anything too experimental, I like new innovative things but it has to be more creativeness in melody, chords and form rather than sound(effects) according to my taste. Yes of course its melody and chords are progressive too, but for me it's (indeed) too weird.
There is nothing in me wanting to really do this yet.

It's not bad music or something, I certainly understand you listening to it, but not my taste at all.




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