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    Posted: November 14 2015 at 11:16
There's been 5,000 signatures in the last 5 minutes so it is being treated as a serious concern.


R.I.P. all those in Paris who sadly lost their lives in the latest Islamist terrorist attack on Western society. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 11:21
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 11:25
"Until ISIS is defeated"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 11:28
Which probably means that UK's borders will be closed while ISIS bombs the UK from the inside. Wrong said Fred.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 11:47
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

"Until ISIS is defeated"

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So they basically want to close borders and stop immigration forever. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 11:50
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

"Until ISIS is defeated"

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So they basically want to close borders and stop immigration forever. 

makes sense in their crazy mindset
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 11:56
Originally posted by Matthew _Gill Matthew _Gill wrote:

There's been 5,000 signatures in the last 5 minutes so it is being treated as a serious concern.


R.I.P. all those in Paris who sadly lost their lives in the latest Islamist attack on Western society. 



There are probably legal reasons why we can't do that.

Also IS won't be defeated. There power may be reduced by they are an ideology that will not die out.

It is worrying though, as one of the Paris attackers was apparently a Syrian 'refugee' who travelled through Greece back in October. I expect there's more to come.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:02
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Matthew _Gill Matthew _Gill wrote:

There's been 5,000 signatures in the last 5 minutes so it is being treated as a serious concern.


R.I.P. all those in Paris who sadly lost their lives in the latest Islamist attack on Western society. 



There are probably legal reasons why we can't do that.

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It'd would mean serious negotiations with the EU, they basically govern us regarding Human Rights and the free movement of people.

Unfortunately despite what self-enlightenment seeking Liberals say Extremists/Terrorists/Islamists are arriving with economic migrants (and the odd genuine family) en masse. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:06
It's not about being enlightened or liberal or anything. Do you really think is possible to "close all borders"? (Well, maybe a tad easier in the UK since it's an island). Do you really think that most of the refugees are terrorists? (Or even many of them)? Don't you think terrorists will already be there and be citizens? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:06
Also, you said that "islamists" are among those arriving. Are all Muslims terrorists? 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:11
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

It's not about being enlightened or liberal or anything. Do you really think is possible to "close all borders"? (Well, maybe a tad easier in the UK since it's an island). Do you really think that most of the refugees are terrorists? (Or even many of them)? Don't you think terrorists will already be there and be citizens? 


IS stated back in September that they would exploit the refugee stream to get more Jihadists into Europe.

I suspect that not many will come but so far we knowonly of thismone and he was part of the biggest terror attack in Europe since the Madrid bombings, so there clearly is some risk.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:14
Xenophobia isn't the answer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:20
It is a very difficult proposition, weighing the humane concern for refugees against the need for security. Free movement across borders as advocated by the EU is both a boon for commerce and a bane for maintaining order and self-determination. The issue is particularly stark in France where jihadists (many naturalized or natural-born citizens of the country) trek back and forth from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, train in combat, and arrive in Paris with impunity, ready to spread mayhem.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:28
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Also, you said that "islamists" are among those arriving. Are all Muslims terrorists? 
 
It is getting to the point among growing nationalist parties in EU countries that the words of Arnaud Amalric, allegedy stated during the massacre of Albigenses by French nobility at Béziers, may well be spoken again:
 
"Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius." (Kill them all, let God sort them out.)
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:40
Maybe if we were less racist, these poor oppressed souls wouldn't feel the need to rape and kill everything that moves. Unhappy

Incidentally, aren't ISIS simply mercenaries working for the US? If they're so Islamist, why haven't they ever attacked Israel?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:45
1. It's not as easy to attack Israel as it seems.  2. The enemies are those states who support And gave birth to Israel first. 3. This is not a case about race I think. Only religion and politics. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:49
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Maybe if we were less racist, these poor oppressed souls wouldn't feel the need to rape and kill everything that moves. Unhappy

Incidentally, aren't ISIS simply mercenaries working for the US? If they're so Islamist, why haven't they ever attacked Israel?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:53
I definitely have no inclination to sign anything like that. Immigrants are fleeing the same people perpetrating terrorist acts like that. It's far too xenophobic for my liking, especially with language like "Islamist attacks". This sort of thinking worries me, it will only lead to Muslim people becoming more isolated, and when they are faced with persecution for simply being who they are it will only serve to fuel their radicalization. Moreover, ISIS isn't the kind of entity you can just defeat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 12:53
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Maybe if we were less racist, these poor oppressed souls wouldn't feel the need to rape and kill everything that moves. Unhappy

Incidentally, aren't ISIS simply mercenaries working for the US? If they're so Islamist, why haven't they ever attacked Israel?

 
I certainly hope you're being facetious.


So do I. If he is not, then this is one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen, which is saying something by recent standards
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