Oregon & Garbarek on PA, but Gismonti isn't?

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EDIT: read the later posts, where it's mentioned that Oregon and Garbarek are on PA but Gismonti isn't, which is a complete lack of coherence to be honest. Hope not to offend anyone, sorry! But listen to "Music of another present era" by Oregon, then "Sol do Meio Dia" or "Dança das Cabeças" by Gismonti and explain to me why Oregon was accepted into jazz/rock(!!!) and Gismonti wasn't accepted at all. Or listen to any Garbarek album from the 70's, where the same thing applies. It makes no sense to accept the Americans and the Norwegian but not the Brazilian - who btw has two actual prog albums in his discography and very progressive compositions throughout his career. Have a nice day!

Hi everyone,
I know, Egberto Gismonti's albums have been suggested before, and as far as I remember, someone suggested it to be taken to the jazz archives. However, I would like to present my case :P as to why two of his albums, namely "Academia de Danças" ('74) and "Corações Futuristas" ('76) should be included here, under the subgenre Eclectic Prog. . 
1 - The aesthetics are clearly prog, evident in his use of synthesizers. 
2 - The compositions are complex, and progressive. 
3 - The musicians are technically amazing.
4 - There is a sense of it being a "concept album" here, especially "Academia de Danças", and the tracks are somehow connected with each other. 

Yes, there is a lot of jazz harmony here, but that should not mean that it should go only to jazzarchives, when they clearly are more prog. Many famous prog bands and artists have used a lot of jazz harmonies before, and they are still included on progarchives. Not to mention that there is a whole section of jazz fusion, where there are a lot of albums on the website, which quite honestly have zero to do with prog rock in terms of composition, presentation and conceptualization. e.g. Miles Davis' and Hermeto Pascoal's discographies. Not that I am against jazz/rock fusion being there - I am just building my case for Gismonti here, whose music by the way is NOT jazz/rock fusion ;).

And yes, there are latin rhythms at times, but not at all as much as his other albums. Either way, he is not the first Latin American artist to incorporate these kind of rhythms into prog either, so it does not make it less prog. There are many others on progarchives who do the same. 

So, I am not saying that his whole discography should be there - I honestly don't know if you would want to put everything here or not. Many of his ECM records, which came after these two prog ones, have a lot of progressive compositions in them, but are not aesthetically or conceptually prog per se. They could however go under eclectic prog, folk prog ("Dança das Cabeças", "Sol do Meio Dia", "Dança dos Escravos", "Solo", "Música de Sobrevivência"), crossover prog, etc. In any case, these two albums that I am talking about here, and perhaps a couple of ones that preceded them, have the most clear and direct relations with prog, psychedelic, and experimental music, and should be on progarchives. It could definitely interest a lot of prog fans out there, even the ones who are not particularly into latin music - listen to it and you'll see why!

Here are the two albums:

"Academia de Danças" 

"Corações Futuristas"
Anyway, what do you think?

Edited by rsinatra - December 04 2015 at 09:38