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jude111
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Topic: Would This Marillion Album Have Been Among... Posted: January 30 2016 at 13:09 |
Full prompt: We all know that Marillion released a two-CD version of Marbles, and it was a sprawling affair stuffed to the brim with pop songs, rock songs, and a few prog tracks. However, what if Marillion had taken the three proggiest tracks and released it as a separate album/CD? (In fact, all the other tracks could have fit on one CD.)
SIDE ONE - Invisible Man (13:37) - Neverland (12:10)
SIDE TWO - Ocean Cloud (17:58)
As you can see, the length of each side makes this a standard vinyl album. My question: Do you think this album would rank among the top 10 in the PA Top Prog Albums list, and/or be considered one of the best prog albums ever made? Yes or No, and discuss why or why not.
Edited by jude111 - January 30 2016 at 14:18
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Posted: January 30 2016 at 19:03 |
Yes, it would have been a masterpiece IMO. The album itself should have included Ocean and left off some filler.
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Posted: January 31 2016 at 13:35 |
That album would have been an utter masterpiece, up there with the finest albums ever recorded.
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Posted: January 31 2016 at 14:34 |
Hercules wrote:
That album would have been an utter masterpiece, up there with the finest albums ever recorded. | I believe that it is an absolute masterpiece just the way it is. Why on earth would I want to take away some fine pieces of music?
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Hercules
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Posted: January 31 2016 at 16:25 |
lazland wrote:
Hercules wrote:
That album would have been an utter masterpiece, up there with the finest albums ever recorded. |
I believe that it is an absolute masterpiece just the way it is. Why on earth would I want to take away some fine pieces of music? |
There's a few tracks on both the single album and double albums I don't really think benefit them and Ocean Cloud is breathtaking, and should be on the single album.
It's like The Road of Bones. If I had to pick the tracks off the double album to go on the single one, I'd have included Constellations and Ten Million Demons without a second thought.
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jude111
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Posted: January 31 2016 at 18:36 |
lazland wrote:
Hercules wrote:
That album would have been an utter masterpiece, up there with the finest albums ever recorded. |
I believe that it is an absolute masterpiece just the way it is. Why on earth would I want to take away some fine pieces of music? |
The album is already broken up into 2 CDs. I'm saying it could be re-arranged: those 3 tracks could be one CD, and all the other tracks could be on a second CD. That second CD would be called "Marbles."
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 31 2016 at 19:48 |
No, it's not a masterpiece.
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Posted: January 31 2016 at 22:06 |
Great one but no.
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Posted: February 01 2016 at 05:14 |
It's a masterpiece as it is. It doesn't need editing.
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Posted: February 02 2016 at 03:49 |
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Posted: February 02 2016 at 05:55 |
the album is great as it is I don't care about the PA Top Prog albums.
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Posted: February 02 2016 at 10:34 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
No, it's not a masterpiece. |
^ this I've never understood all the love for these guys post Fish; ....the music on many of their later albums moves along at a slow pace and never rises above mildly interesting for me. Pleasant vocals, nice keyboard work, and production but ultimately never really reaching any dynamic moments for me. It's safe prog.
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Posted: February 02 2016 at 11:32 |
dr wu23 wrote:
I've never understood all the love for these guys post Fish; ....the music on many of their later albums moves along at a slow pace and never rises above mildly interesting for me. Pleasant vocals, nice keyboard work, and production but ultimately never really reaching any dynamic moments for me. It's safe prog.
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I don't consider Marbles a masterpiece. But I think those three tracks (Invisible Man, Neverland, Ocean Cloud) are masterpieces. I almost never listen to Marbles; I only listen to those 3 songs, which I've burned on a CD. For me it's like a perfect album that way. Just wondered if others felt the same way. (Apparently not
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Posted: February 02 2016 at 12:04 |
"Do you think this album would rank among the top 10 in the PA Top Prog Albums list[?]..."
No. The top ten is purely late 60s through 70s. Not until we hit number 16 do we even get to the 80s. At number 33 we get to a 90s album. At number 54 we get our first post 2000 album and first album listed as Neo-Prog.
Any album not of the classic era would have a much harder time finding the audience to be rated in the top list, and lets face it, the Neo Prog label does put many people off (so does RIO/Avant and Zeuhl, I'm not making a quality judgement).
"...and/or be considered one of the best prog albums ever made?"
Aside from its lack of classic status due to when it was made, I don't think those pieces have the qualities that would hugely appeal to the majority of proggers enough to have them rate it as highly as the "classics", and most would not consider to be one of the greatest albums "ever" made.
I'm not really a fan of the top list here at PA, and have less Prog mainstream tastes than most here, but ignoring my musical tastes/ biases (my tastes are quite irrelevant in the greater prog scheme of things), I really don't think the album would rank that high or achieve a masterpiece in the history of prog status. I think it would help if it were considered a ground breaking album, and highly influential.
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Posted: February 02 2016 at 12:40 |
dr wu23 wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
No, it's not a masterpiece. |
^ this I've never understood all the love for these guys post Fish; ....the music on many of their later albums moves along at a slow pace and never rises above mildly interesting for me. Pleasant vocals, nice keyboard work, and production but ultimately never really reaching any dynamic moments for me. It's safe prog. |
AGREE
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Posted: February 02 2016 at 13:03 |
Yeah, it didn't sound terribly adventurous to me, but I don't much like the Fish era either.
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