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    Posted: February 05 2016 at 11:54
Hello everyone! Which albums or songs do you consider to be examples of bad drumming? Just being curious here, I don't have any drummer in mind.
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MOST Metallica Wink.
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Not Prog, but the Shaggs' Philosophy of the World (though the drumming is still the best musicianship).

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The drumming on Bowie's last album sounded completely inappropriate to the music.
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That drummer on the Al Kooper-Mike Bloomfield double live album from the late 60s....great playing sunk by an incompetent drummer.
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Originally posted by PrognosticMind PrognosticMind wrote:

MOST Metallica Wink.


no, but on the last two albums, I agree (St Anger and Death Magnetic).
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Not necessarily bad drumming, but once Barrie Barlow left Tull, the creativity of percussions left with him. Without either Barlow or Clive Bunker, you could pile all the rest of Tull's drummers in a leaky boat and let it sink.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Not necessarily bad drumming, but once Barrie Barlow left Tull, the creativity of percussions left with him. Without either Barlow or Clive Bunker, you could pile all the rest of Tull's drummers in a leaky boat and let it sink.

I totally agree.  While teaming up with several bassists, Barlow was the one who really drove the engine room of Tull through their most adventurous album run (Brick -> Stormwatch).  When Ian "realigned" Tull in 1980, keeping Martin was a smart idea but he really dropped the ball by not keeping Barrie on the team.

Can't really think of anyone specific for "bad drumming" though I'll nominate Ginger Baker's "Toad" solo on Wheels of Fire and Bonham's "Moby Dick" on Song Remains the Same for solos that go on way, way too long Wink 
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Lol Tolhurst, The Cure, Seventeen Seconds
Almost destroys the album, though the sound seems to have been quite intentional.  Wah?!
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Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Lol Tolhurst, The Cure, Seventeen Seconds
Almost destroys the album, though the sound seems to have been quite intentional.  Wah?!



Robert Smith said he taught Lol to play the drums, and Smith admitted that he himself couldn't actually play. They just needed a drummer.

Anyway, my choice of poor drummer would be Simon King from Hawkwind. As much as I love the band, he plays like a complete amateur much of the time, coming in slightly late, fluffing up fills here and there. Generally sounds ill rehearsed to me. It may have been the desired effect I guess, and I also suspect he was off his tits most of the time.
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Originally posted by PrognosticMind PrognosticMind wrote:

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Heck ... most metal ... why are they using a drummer when they can do that with a metronome from any DAW? Waste of a person and their talent!
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by PrognosticMind PrognosticMind wrote:

MOST Metallica Wink.
 
Heck ... most metal ... why are they using a drummer when they can do that with a metronome from any DAW? Waste of a person and their talent!


most metal? I wouldn't generalize like that.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Not necessarily bad drumming, but once Barrie Barlow left Tull, the creativity of percussions left with him. Without either Barlow or Clive Bunker, you could pile all the rest of Tull's drummers in a leaky boat and let it sink.

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I always thought Budgie needed a better drummer, I wonder how they would sound with someone like Neil Peart behind the drums.
Although I really like Never Turn Your Back On A Friend I think the drums are terrible there, kind of dragging and sloppy, especially on Breadfan.
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The Edhels album, Oriental Christmas, has terrible plodding drums. It provides decent time, but that seems to be its only purpose. The album is actually quite nice for a guitar fan like me. Everything else is just backing for the lead guitar. Don't listen to it for any other instrument.
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Points: 23098 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2016 at 11:45
Originally posted by Sagichim Sagichim wrote:

I always thought Budgie needed a better drummer, I wonder how they would sound with someone like Neil Peart behind the drums.
Although I really like Never Turn Your Back On A Friend I think the drums are terrible there, kind of dragging and sloppy, especially on Breadfan.


I agree with this although there is a certain charm about it. Just like Marillion's debut - not terrible drumming per se but rather below what the average prog fan expects.
Oh and a small shout out to Meg White from The White Stripes. Funny thing about the Stripes is what all the critics time again stressed: Jack needs to get together with a proper drummer in order to produce the "masterpiece" we all know he has in him.
Yeah well I don't think he's made anything as vital and thrilling as Elephant - even after he surrounded himself with session musicians and a drummer who can do fills.
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I think the drummer with Therapy had an irritating 'clanking' sound. Equally annoying is the repetitive drum sound on Robert Plant's Big Log (possibly Phil Collins?). Scott Travis of Judus Priest may be a good technical drummer, but his double kick technique is too obtrusive.

I thought Steve Williams was an excellent drummer, on album and when playing live. I like drummers who get a big sound from a small kit.
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Points: 51 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2016 at 16:16
Originally posted by Sagichim Sagichim wrote:

I always thought Budgie needed a better drummer, I wonder how they would sound with someone like Neil Peart behind the drums.
Although I really like Never Turn Your Back On A Friend I think the drums are terrible there, kind of dragging and sloppy, especially on Breadfan.

Agree. Breadfan is a good example of a song that could have been much better with a best drummer.

What's wrong with Lars Ulrich? I have always considered him a good drummer.
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