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Manuelmoreno
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Topic: Bad drumming Posted: February 05 2016 at 11:54 |
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Hello everyone! Which albums or songs do you consider to be examples of bad drumming? Just being curious here, I don't have any drummer in mind.
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PrognosticMind
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Posted: February 05 2016 at 12:25 | |
MOST Metallica .
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15916 |
Posted: February 05 2016 at 14:21 | |
^ Didn't take long for someone to diss Lars. I don't get it - I think he's pretty decent......
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Logan
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Posted: February 05 2016 at 14:26 | |
Not Prog, but the Shaggs' Philosophy of the World (though the drumming is still the best musicianship).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9UT2zF8c8 |
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Evolver
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Posted: February 05 2016 at 14:44 | |
The drumming on Bowie's last album sounded completely inappropriate to the music.
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Intruder
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Posted: February 05 2016 at 15:15 | |
That drummer on the Al Kooper-Mike Bloomfield double live album from the late 60s....great playing sunk by an incompetent drummer.
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Cristi
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Posted: February 05 2016 at 16:37 | |
no, but on the last two albums, I agree (St Anger and Death Magnetic). |
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 05 2016 at 18:22 | |
^ I think Lars is great on DM.......
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: February 05 2016 at 19:09 | |
Not necessarily bad drumming, but once Barrie Barlow left Tull, the creativity of percussions left with him. Without either Barlow or Clive Bunker, you could pile all the rest of Tull's drummers in a leaky boat and let it sink.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: February 05 2016 at 19:40 | |
I totally agree. While teaming up with several bassists, Barlow was the one who really drove the engine room of Tull through their most adventurous album run (Brick -> Stormwatch). When Ian "realigned" Tull in 1980, keeping Martin was a smart idea but he really dropped the ball by not keeping Barrie on the team. Can't really think of anyone specific for "bad drumming" though I'll nominate Ginger Baker's "Toad" solo on Wheels of Fire and Bonham's "Moby Dick" on Song Remains the Same for solos that go on way, way too long
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infocat
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Posted: February 05 2016 at 21:35 | |
Lol Tolhurst, The Cure, Seventeen Seconds
Almost destroys the album, though the sound seems to have been quite intentional. Wah?! |
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Blacksword
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Posted: February 06 2016 at 00:54 | |
Robert Smith said he taught Lol to play the drums, and Smith admitted that he himself couldn't actually play. They just needed a drummer. Anyway, my choice of poor drummer would be Simon King from Hawkwind. As much as I love the band, he plays like a complete amateur much of the time, coming in slightly late, fluffing up fills here and there. Generally sounds ill rehearsed to me. It may have been the desired effect I guess, and I also suspect he was off his tits most of the time. |
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moshkito
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Posted: February 06 2016 at 12:35 | |
Heck ... most metal ... why are they using a drummer when they can do that with a metronome from any DAW? Waste of a person and their talent!
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Cristi
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 00:04 | |
most metal? I wouldn't generalize like that. |
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 00:21 | |
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Sagichim
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 01:15 | |
I always thought Budgie needed a better drummer, I wonder how they would sound with someone like Neil Peart behind the drums.
Although I really like Never Turn Your Back On A Friend I think the drums are terrible there, kind of dragging and sloppy, especially on Breadfan.
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HackettFan
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 09:46 | |
The Edhels album, Oriental Christmas, has terrible plodding drums. It provides decent time, but that seems to be its only purpose. The album is actually quite nice for a guitar fan like me. Everything else is just backing for the lead guitar. Don't listen to it for any other instrument.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 11:45 | |
I agree with this although there is a certain charm about it. Just like Marillion's debut - not terrible drumming per se but rather below what the average prog fan expects. Oh and a small shout out to Meg White from The White Stripes. Funny thing about the Stripes is what all the critics time again stressed: Jack needs to get together with a proper drummer in order to produce the "masterpiece" we all know he has in him. Yeah well I don't think he's made anything as vital and thrilling as Elephant - even after he surrounded himself with session musicians and a drummer who can do fills. |
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Big Ears
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 14:33 | |
I think the drummer with Therapy had an irritating 'clanking' sound. Equally annoying is the repetitive drum sound on Robert Plant's Big Log (possibly Phil Collins?). Scott Travis of Judus Priest may be a good technical drummer, but his double kick technique is too obtrusive.
I thought Steve Williams was an excellent drummer, on album and when playing live. I like drummers who get a big sound from a small kit. |
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Manuelmoreno
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 16:16 | |
Agree. Breadfan is a good example of a song that could have been much better with a best drummer. What's wrong with Lars Ulrich? I have always considered him a good drummer.
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