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Flight123 
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 Posted: February 12 2016 at 08:51 |
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The technology of the 80s seemed to suck the life out of top prog drummers such as White, Palmer etc.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 12 2016 at 14:15 |
 Flight123 wrote:
The technology of the 80s seemed to suck the life out of top prog drummers such as White, Palmer etc.
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.....and Danny Seraphine (Chicago).........
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Rednight
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Posted: February 12 2016 at 14:40 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Flight123 wrote:
The technology of the 80s seemed to suck the life out of top prog drummers such as White, Palmer etc.
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.....and Danny Seraphine (Chicago)......... |
...and Bruford...
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Rednight
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Posted: February 12 2016 at 14:45 |
Hercules wrote:
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progaardvark wrote:
After many, many years of Phil Collins behind the kit for Genesis, Calling All Stations was a disappoint in the drum department. The drumming was competent, but it tended to be mostly "machine-like." Banks and Rutherford really wasted an opportunity when they had D'Virgilio on a couple of songs.
Anyway, the album had other problems besides the drumming... |
Who was the other guy on the rest of the album? Anyone of note? And who is D'Virgilio? Anyone of note? (I'm too lazy to look it up myself). |
Former drummer with Spock's Beard - a really fine player. |
You know, I do have a few 'Beard's CDs, and I should have been familiar with the guy. I'm shamed.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 12 2016 at 16:41 |
Rednight wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Rednight wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
After many, many years of Phil Collins behind the kit for Genesis, Calling All Stations was a disappoint in the drum department. The drumming was competent, but it tended to be mostly "machine-like." Banks and Rutherford really wasted an opportunity when they had D'Virgilio on a couple of songs.
Anyway, the album had other problems besides the drumming... |
Who was the other guy on the rest of the album? Anyone of note? And who is D'Virgilio? Anyone of note? (I'm too lazy to look it up myself). |
Former drummer with Spock's Beard - a really fine player. |
You know, I do have a few 'Beard's CDs, and I should have been familiar with the guy. I'm shamed. |
He's in Big Big Train now. And I think he sounded somewhat 'generic' as a drummer on Calling All Stations, but maybe that's what was required.....?
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 12 2016 at 16:43 |
Rednight wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Rednight wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
After many, many years of Phil Collins behind the kit for Genesis, Calling All Stations was a disappoint in the drum department. The drumming was competent, but it tended to be mostly "machine-like." Banks and Rutherford really wasted an opportunity when they had D'Virgilio on a couple of songs.
Anyway, the album had other problems besides the drumming... |
Who was the other guy on the rest of the album? Anyone of note? And who is D'Virgilio? Anyone of note? (I'm too lazy to look it up myself). |
Former drummer with Spock's Beard - a really fine player. |
You know, I do have a few 'Beard's CDs, and I should have been familiar with the guy. I'm shamed. |
He's in Big Big Train now. And I think he sounded somewhat 'generic' as a drummer on Calling All Stations, but maybe that's what was required.....? And I still think Lars is pretty good (when he wants to be), just he has a massive ego, and is filthy rich - why bother practicing ???
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: February 12 2016 at 19:39 |
All drummers from Spinal Tap. So bad were they that they always ended up in bizarre gardening accidents. Now that's cosmic justice in action
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 12 2016 at 19:42 |
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^ Actually spontaneous combustion was the most common Tap drummer cause of death. Currently and for the past ten years it's been freak housecleaning incidents.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: February 12 2016 at 20:12 |
^ Awwww, you Spinal Tap nerd! You are so right :) I just find the bizarre gardening accidnents the funniest! 
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cstack3
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 00:46 |
siLLy puPPy wrote:
All drummers from Spinal Tap. So bad were they that they always ended up in bizarre gardening accidents. Now that's cosmic justice in action |
Ha! Yours truly in white, with Les Paul, in the art-project band "Casual Cro-bar." We were a satire band of a satire band! This photo was taken during "Heavy Duty."
Our drummer exploded onstage at our first and only concert, hence the blood stains on my lab coat. Poor Gary....RIP.
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bucka001
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Posted: February 15 2016 at 12:32 |
Flight123 wrote:
Genesis were also right to kick out John Mayhew (and probably the amateurs that came before him...)
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I agree about Mayhew, they needed a better drummer, but I don't think the other two got kicked out. In fact, I remember reading a quote from Ant Phillips where he stated that one (maybe Chris Stewart) was a fine drummer. Also, I think John Silver would have stayed on but he opted out of the band to further his studies (or something, it's been a long time since I read up on Genesis history). They certainly liked John Silver, he was a guest at Tony Banks' wedding a few years later in '71/'72 and posed for a pic w/the current members of Genesis (Nursery Cryme period) and Ant Phillips. John Mayhew wasn't invited, I'm guessing it would have been awkward ("Hey, you know how we fired you from the band not too long ago and broke your heart? Well... you wanna come to my wedding?")
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Cosmiclawnmower
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Posted: February 15 2016 at 16:06 |
siLLy puPPy wrote:
^ Awwww, you Spinal Tap nerd! You are so right :) I just find the bizarre gardening accidnents the funniest! |
One day, a very famous guitarist decides to sharpen the gardeners chainsaw... I wonder if the insurance will cover that?? Luckily disaster was averted and the world tour went ahead as planned... 
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: February 15 2016 at 21:10 |
cstack3 wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
All drummers from Spinal Tap. So bad were they that they always ended up in bizarre gardening accidents. Now that's cosmic justice in action |
Ha! Yours truly in white, with Les Paul, in the art-project band "Casual Cro-bar." We were a satire band of a satire band! This photo was taken during "Heavy Duty."
Our drummer exploded onstage at our first and only concert, hence the blood stains on my lab coat. Poor Gary....RIP.
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LOL! So it really happens!
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Flight123
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Posted: February 16 2016 at 04:10 |
bucka001 wrote:
Flight123 wrote:
Genesis were also right to kick out John Mayhew (and probably the amateurs that came before him...)
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I agree about Mayhew, they needed a better drummer, but I don't think the other two got kicked out. In fact, I remember reading a quote from Ant Phillips where he stated that one (maybe Chris Stewart) was a fine drummer. Also, I think John Silver would have stayed on but he opted out of the band to further his studies (or something, it's been a long time since I read up on Genesis history). They certainly liked John Silver, he was a guest at Tony Banks' wedding a few years later in '71/'72 and posed for a pic w/the current members of Genesis (Nursery Cryme period) and Ant Phillips. John Mayhew wasn't invited, I'm guessing it would have been awkward ("Hey, you know how we fired you from the band not too long ago and broke your heart? Well... you wanna come to my wedding?") |
Indeed, they were school friends. I think Jonathan King instigated Stewart's removal and clearly Silver had no interest in a career in music.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 16 2016 at 04:50 |
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Seems most are 'on the fence' when it comes to Lars Ulrich's drumming. Maybe he can be a bit lazy or slack, but man, he is surely a very good drummer................and as always, the 'King' shall be critiqued much harder than most others............He is (maybe 'was' I suppose) a MASSIVE inspiration for future 'thrash' drumming debutantes. I will not support his spoilt-brat ego, though I love his drumming........he does know what he's doing.........Death Magnetic blows me out more so than the early albums. Some of those songs are really complex whether you like it or not.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: February 17 2016 at 05:59 |
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Novalis - "Sommerabend". Horribly boring drumming.
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 BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 17 2016 at 06:43 |
^  Hartwig Beireichel - not the most creative drummer......
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Jake_Simons
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Posted: February 18 2016 at 19:24 |
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Not that hes BAD I guess...but hes EXTREMELY overrated and tries to be flashy but ends up being trashy.
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Rush, King Crimson, Megadeth.  
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 18 2016 at 22:26 |
^ Who ?? 
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 18 2016 at 23:08 |
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^ I'm guessing "Hartwig Beireichel" .
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