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Bungler
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Topic: Top 5 Most Important Progressive Concept Albums . Posted: February 10 2016 at 10:25 |
We are not talking about the best , or favorites . But instead I am looking for the most defining of the Prog world . Here is mine 5 Thick As A Brick by Jethro Tull ( I know its a parody , but its still a concept album ) 4 Operation Mindcrime by Queensryche 3 Sgt , Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band by The Beatles 2 Tommy by The Who 1 The Wall by Pink Floyd Have a nice day .
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 10:34 |
Sgt Pepper is not a concept album.
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 10:49 |
Thick As A Brick was a parody of concept albums.
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Bungler
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 10:59 |
Sorry , my bad . I thought it was a concept album .
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 11:06 |
zravkapt wrote:
Thick As A Brick was a parody of concept albums.
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isn't a parody of concept albums in itself a concept album? I mean, it's not just a random bunch of songs, so it coalesces around a central concept.
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 11:41 |
The Wall TAAB Ziggy Tommy DSOTM
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Ian
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 12:18 |
The Lamb TAAB Operation Mindcrime Tommy Animals
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 15:47 |
The Wall (most popular concept album ever) The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Tales From Topographic Oceans Thick as a Brick Scenes From a Memory (introduced concept albums to younger generations)
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 15:58 |
I'm not sure how to measure importance but I will say this: the 350.000 people watching Waters play and perform The Wall on Potzdamer Platz some 8 months after the real Wall came down will most likely have a natural favourite.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 17:01 |
emigre80 wrote:
zravkapt wrote:
Thick As A Brick was a parody of concept albums.
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isn't a parody of concept albums in itself a concept album? I mean, it's not just a random bunch of songs, so it coalesces around a central concept. |
It is a great concept album, made even better by the newspaper that actually gives the seamy historical backdrop to the poem written by Gerald Bostock that serves as the basis of the music.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 17:15 |
Gerald Bostock is a fictional character created by Ian Anderson. Ian wrote the poem and the albums lyrics. The whole idea of Gerald Bostock an 8-year-old writing an epic poem was a joke as part of the parody of the album developed by Anderson.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 17:18 |
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Gerald Bostock is a fictional character created by Ian Anderson.Ian wrote the poem and the albums lyrics. The whole idea of Gerald Bostock an 8-year-old writing an epic poem was a joke as part of the parody of the album developed by Anderson. |
Gosh, thanks for that information. I've been listening to the album since 1972, gone to over 20 Tull concerts, and I didn't know till now. Actually, what I was referring to is the fictional story in the newspaper is the concept which the poem is derived from.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: February 10 2016 at 17:22 |
"Sgt Pepper is not a concept album." Where do you get that from? Sgt. Pepper is regarded by musicologists as one of the first concept albums, with the theme based around a performance by the fictional Sgt. Pepper band. Not saying I like it as a concept album but it is a concept album.
Edited by EddieRUKiddingVarese - February 10 2016 at 17:26
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Posted: February 11 2016 at 05:32 |
The Lamb; Tales from Topographic Oceans; The Snow Goose; The Radio Gnome Trilogy; Olias of Sunhillow
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Posted: February 11 2016 at 05:36 |
In chronological order:
Days of Future Passed Tommy Dark Side of the Moon The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway The Wall
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Posted: February 11 2016 at 05:47 |
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
"Sgt Pepper is not a concept album." Where do you get that from? Sgt. Pepper is regarded by musicologists as one of the first concept albums, with the theme based around a performance by the fictional Sgt. Pepper band. Not saying I like it as a concept album but it is a concept album.
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I got it from John Lennon who said it was supposed to be a concept of a fictional band as you say, but they lost interest in it after the first 2 tracks and after that it became a normal album. I accept it's sort of a concept but they never really finished it (apart from the later reprise of the title track) and there's nothing linking the songs together as there is in The Wall or Tommy. Now if they'd carried out their original idea of songs about their early days in Liverpool (which is where Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane come from, and they were supposed to be on Sgt Pepper), then it would have been a real concept album.
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Posted: February 11 2016 at 05:52 |
This isn't the quote I was talking about as I can't find it yet but this gives you some idea what Lennon thought about the "concept" -
"It's called the first "concept album." It
doesn't go anywhere. "Mr. Kite," all my contributions have absolutely
nothing to do with this idea of Sgt. Pepper and his band, but it worked
because we said it worked. And that's how it appeared. "
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Posted: February 11 2016 at 09:23 |
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway Tommy Tales From Topographic Oceans Thick As A Brick The Wall
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: February 11 2016 at 11:17 |
Listed in order of chronological release (which hopefully shows the development of the concept album or at least different approaches)
1967 Sgt Peppers (admittedly not as fully realized as later prog concept albums, but the 1st I know of to musically tie the opening to the end (Sgt Peppers with the Sgt Peppers Reprise) and visually illustrate the concept with the cover art. Not to mention the first album to ever include the printed lyrics for all to see, understand, and analyze...a new concept for it's time)
1969 Tommy (though I really don't care for it at all, I'll still acknowledge it's huge importance as the 1st fully realized concept album with a story line and recurring musical themes...some unfortunately driven into the ground by repetition)
1972 Thick as a Brick (the 1st concept album to poke fun at concept albums and become a great concept album in the process...long live Gerald Bostock! I'd also say the first concept album to feature a level of musicianship and lyrical invention on par with the grandiose requirements of the concept)
1973 Tales from Topographic Oceans (the 1st concept album solely based on interpretation of a religious text - as opposed to Jesus Christ Superstar which was of course based on the life story of a religious figure. Tales was a musical concept realization of what Jimi used to call "The Electric Church")
1974 The Lamb (illustrates concept album as musical accompaniment to a complex written work - different than Tommy as The Lamb short story could really stand alone as an intriguing work of fiction rather than a collection of concepts and ideas)
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TheLionOfPrague
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Posted: February 11 2016 at 12:03 |
-Dark Side of the Moon -Tommy -Thick as a Brick -The Wall -Mmm, Animals? The Lamb? Days of Future Passed? Not sure which one I'd add.
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I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
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