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Topic: Space/Sci-fi Prog similar to PF "Echoes" Posted: February 22 2016 at 18:41 |
I've listened to a fair deal of Eloy and the full PF discography but never really ran into anything else that would capture the sort of Sci-fi Space Odyssey feel like on Echoes. Especially the buildup in the second part. Ideas?
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Posted: February 22 2016 at 20:02 |
Tangerine Dream ?
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Posted: February 22 2016 at 20:16 |
Hi,
I do not find that Eloy compares well to PF at all, and I do not hear/listen to PF when enjoying a lot of Eloy's music ... but here goes, more or less.
Jane is Eloy's sister band, so to speak. Only Fire, Earth Air and Water are all long cuts, but they develop some longer cuts nicely.
The only other bunch that I would consider "sci-fi" would be the Cosmic Couriers stuff, although many folks say that is just stoned stuff, and not really anything else, but there are many things in there that are nice, even if some of them seem to sound "dated". It's hard to take "Galactic Supermarket" seriously, but the music in it is very nice, for example ... and the "idealism" in it, never bothered me. Ash Ra Tempel, and then AshRa, though I can already hear some folks say ... "where's the lyrics?"
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Not sure this will help at all ... but, good luck
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Posted: February 22 2016 at 22:07 |
Oh, that buildup on Echoes... I really love it, and they never got it right live... that's the reason I still like the studio version better than the live ones... even if mostly the rest of the song is better on the live versions. However, I don't think I can find something like that build-up on other albums, still you might like to check out Ayreon's "The Dream Sequencer". Perhaps also Porcupine Tree's live album "Coma Divine". Or Riverside's song "The Same River".
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 00:29 |
moshkito wrote:
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I do not find that Eloy compares well to PF at all, and I do not hear/listen to PF when enjoying a lot of Eloy's music ... but here goes, more or less. |
Well you're right, it doesn't. But Ocean is still the closest I've come to that sort of sound, however distant it might be. I need to check out the others though. Thanks.
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 00:31 |
Atavachron wrote:
Tangerine Dream ?
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Got an album in mind? Their discography is quite daunting.
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 01:28 |
^ It is indeed. Generally their years on Virgin are suggested for the classic sound ~ Phaedra, Rubycon. Not always as dark as 'Echoes' but with a similar direction into deepspace. You may have to spend & spin a bit before you find something that suits your bill, but half the fun is the quest anyway.
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 01:41 |
Gong's "Isle of Everywhere / You never Blow Your Trip Forever" suite reminds me of "Echoes", including the fade-out at the end. Of course there are musically differences between Pink Floyd and Gong, but there is a certain similarity as well. And it is definitely spacey taking you to the planet Gong.
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 03:34 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Gong's "Isle of Everywhere / You never Blow Your Trip Forever" suite reminds me of "Echoes", including the fade-out at the end. Of course there are musically differences between Pink Floyd and Gong, but there is a certain similarity as well. And it is definitely spacey taking you to the planet Gong.
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Yeah I definitely need to check out Gong.
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 03:46 |
Floyd was such a deeply original band no one could recreate what they did. Few bothered even trying. That's why they were great and why Meddle is on the short list of all-time rock classics. Psych, prog, pop, blues-rock, didn't matter; everyone loved Meddle. Just like everyone loved The Yes Album whether they ever bought another Yes LP or not.
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 04:27 |
Ah, the search for PF-like epic music. There's a lot of music I love from the same genre, but I gave up comparing with them. I think it helped that they had the top quality production at the time. I was listening to Pollen yesterday and wondering how great it could be if their albums had a better production... and a better singer I love Phaedra and Rubycon, but it has no Rock or lyrics (the listener creates his own story ). Nothing wrong with that in my opinion, it's just really different from Echoes.
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 04:35 |
^ True that.
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 04:39 |
I mean Pulsar, Pollen is the name of their first album
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 05:25 |
Try Ozric Tentacles - and of course, Hawkwind's 'Space Ritual' (supplemented by Bob Calvert's space poems...)
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 05:29 |
^ Ozrics not a bad idea -
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 05:36 |
Hawkwind's "In Search of Space" has a Sci-fi story, but I can't read anything from this tiny booklet
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 06:02 |
Although Hawkwind is probably a good rec, I didn't necessarily mean "sci-fi" in lyrical concept per se; Rush 2112 is scifi as well but its quite different. Echoes has a sort of "Scifi atmosphere" which I was originally referring to, although no harm can be done either way ;)
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 06:32 |
A few albums that give me a strong Echoes vibe throughout or in some songs, even without a sci-fi lyrical theme:
- Novalis, Sommerabend - Emeraude, Geoffroy - Torga Ostera, Queda Ascendente
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 07:15 |
maybe some Amon Duul II and Ash Ra Temple
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Posted: February 23 2016 at 07:49 |
^ ^ ^ Wise suggestion. Ash Ra Tempel's INVENTIONS FOR ELECTRIC GUITAR, Amon Duul 2's YETI or DANCE OF THE LEMMINGS get the highest marks from me. For deep space, try Tangerine Dream's ATEM or Klaus Schulze's MOONDAWN or BODY LOVE, Vols. 1 & 2.
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