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emigre80 
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 Topic: And You and I live - which version?Posted: April 24 2016 at 09:39 |
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I have 15 live versions of And You and I on my iPod (and a number more on CD that I haven't yet transferred over). Which is your favorite?
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micky
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 09:41 |
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I'm a complete sucker for pretty much anything off of that symphonic album.
I'll take that one Edited by micky - April 24 2016 at 09:41 |
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emigre80
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 09:44 |
I have to agree with you about that album. Astonishing. But the version of AYAI on Live at Montreux is completely amazing.
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 09:46 |
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I'll check that out then..
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 10:01 |
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ahh... I just checked I don't have that album actually. So I don't think I've ever heard it. I'll have to youtube it then.
I've never really been a live album kind of guy actually. Really only 'rock and roll' live albums float my boat generally. I'll take your high praise as a recommendation worth taking. I do adore the Symphonic album and I did love the 3 CD live Yes The Word Is live but generally I like the studio versions of Yes songs best. |
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 10:20 |
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Why exactly is ABWH for the "perversed' among us?? I've never understood the beating they took, I find it to be an amazing Yes album...and it IS Yes.
But, I'll have to do some serious listening to get through all 10 versions you listed. Suffice to say, I love the song so I'll like any version. |
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 10:23 |
I do enjoy ABWH, and I do agree it's Yes - I've listened to that album a whole lot over the past few years and there are some great Yes songs on it - but their live version of AYAI is lacking something, I just can't put my finger on it....oh, wait, I can - it's lacking Chris Squire's bass. So it's a decent live version but it would be pretty odd to have someone mark it out as their favorite, because it just isn't great.
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 10:55 |
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Of all the live versions I've heard I always felt that the studio version got it better.
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 11:16 |
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Ya, ya...Chris Squire, I get it. But Tony Levin is no slouch. I do agree that Squire had a unique bass sound and singular style. I don't really care for the Symphonic Live or the Yessongs mix. I'd have to go with the original version, and... (he says putting himself in the firing line) the Steve Wilson mix. He just brought everything a little more into the light.
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 11:17 |
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I never really thought they captured the beauty of Squires bass in live recordings. There was more energy, but the subtleties of the sound he had in the studio were nowhere to be found.
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 11:25 |
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The original was a perfect prog song, and my favorite Yes tune. You can come close in live recordings, you can add symphonic frou-frou, but in the end you are only trying to duplicate what was already done in a completeness that can't really be matched.
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 11:49 |
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Yessongs.
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 13:20 |
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Mmmm, Live at Montreux I think. Yessongs is great but I prefer the intro being acoustic and IIRC Montreux has the harmonica lines in the "The Preacher the Teacher" section and Yesongs doesn't (and I love that for some reason). I love the Symphonic version too.
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 15:01 |
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This gives me the chance to ask a question I always wanted to ask.
During the original studio version's first great crescendo, Anderson calmly sings: "Co...ming...quick-ly-to-terms-of all expression laid..." On YESSONGS, however, and on all officially available recordings (PROGENY!) from that same tour, he disturbs this easy-going rhythm by singing: "C'ming-QUICK-ly-to-TEEEEEERMS..." It's not easy to explain what I mean, but I'm sure anyone could hear it! So my question is: what caused Anderson to disturb (what seems to me) a perfectly natural rhythm??? (By the way, I'm sure the best live version of AYAI is on PROGENY somewhere... The band went on to play better at Montreux - those grand climaxes never sounded grander - but there Anderson's voice is a little too wobbly.) |
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 15:37 |
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For me it has to be one of the versions from Progeny. Don't know them well enough to differentiate, but being Yessongs came from those tapes I'll vote for that.
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Posted: April 24 2016 at 23:59 |
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I think Tsongas and Montreaux are both very good and really the end of Yes as a great live band with a great line up. The original album version is sort of perfection.
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I'll go for the CTTE purist version. They had written and recorded everything. Then they had to learn how to play it all.
 It was all uphill from there. Yessongs was pretty good too. Off topic bit. I must admit I was take aback at the extensive editing (Starship Trooper for e.g.) to create that live studio album. Progeny was quite interesting for that. More or less back on topic. But my favourite non-official version of And You And Me (they were and are appalling at grammar) is one from NYC ... 2004 I think... where the audience were in a such rapture the spontaneous standing ovation was too loud for the band to continue. The audience sourced DVD and audio are both quite good too. |
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Posted: April 25 2016 at 04:16 |
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I'm a pure purist, so...
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Posted: April 25 2016 at 08:53 |
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More or less back on topic. But my favourite non-official version of And You And Me (they were and are appalling at grammar) is one from NYC ... 2004 I think... where the audience were in a such rapture the spontaneous standing ovation was too loud for the band to continue. The audience sourced DVD and audio are both quite good too. OMG I was there--it was Madison Sq Garden---it was I think the Tsongas tour! I have never seen anything like it or been moved as much at a concert--- was moved to tears---now that is what Yes used to be---the power of Yes music played perfectly saw them a few times after when JA and Rick had left---and the pure magic was gone which is why I don't see them live anymore---there is no chance of a moment like that again |
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Posted: April 25 2016 at 18:18 |
it's been pulled from youtube, unfortunately, and the album is hard to find, as I discovered when I tried to get it for my husband for Christmas. It's worth getting on DVD, the visuals are very good, and there are some really great tracks on it - South Side of the Sky, Heart of the Sunrise and Siberian Khatru, for starters. A really lively version of Don't Kill the Whale (I have a soft spot for that song) and a lovely version of To Be Over by Howe (no lyrics! thanks be to God!). I recommend it highly, it's worth the investment for the version of And You and I if nothing else.
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