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WeepingElf 
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 Posted: June 28 2016 at 15:09 |
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I can't say anything on that one as I don't know them. But I concede that prog can be pretty bleak, even '70s prog. However, I think there is still a recognizable difference, at least in degree, between darkish prog and extreme metal. Of course, exceptions exist.
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Posted: June 28 2016 at 15:47 |
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I am looking for progressive death metal bands. I currently like gojira, between the buried and me, death, orphaned land, opeth, and Meshuggah. Is their any other suggestions for progressive death metal bands |
Go crazy on the jazzy tech death and check out Anomalous' "Ohmnivalent" album. Really wild stuff. Ontogeny - "Hymns of Ahriman" is exceptional as well. Some mammoth riffs to match the general weirdness. Gorod - "Leading Vision" is actually catchy for tech/death madness. As for the more atmospheric style of prog/death, Witherscape for sure...looking forward to their new release next month.
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Posted: June 28 2016 at 16:11 |
WeepingElf wrote:
I can't say anything on that one as I don't know them. But I concede that prog can be pretty bleak, even '70s prog. However, I think there is still a recognizable difference, at least in degree, between darkish prog and extreme metal. Of course, exceptions exist.
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One might cite Lykathea Aflame as a relevant exception - a Czech band whose musical style is brutal death metal, but whose lyrics contain a brand of New Age spiritualism not a million miles away from what Jon Anderson might write, if he had a better grasp of English.
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Posted: June 28 2016 at 16:16 |
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Lykathea Aflame is AMAZING. Super super positive lyrics. As uplifting as you could be. Very progressive brutal death metal.
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Posted: June 29 2016 at 00:39 |
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Stupid me - up until about 2 years ago, tech-death, tech-thrash.....whatever, was just an abrasive noise to my ears.
Now that I actually open my ears, and truly 'listen' (in the very essence of the word) - these various bands I've so far discovered, in this sub-genre, are mind-blowingly INSANE musicians. They are 'progressive' for sure, but the above mentioned tags 'tech-death / tech-thrash' seems most accurate. They are heavy music for sure, not everyone's cup of tea, but if one likes technical playing, very clever musicians on their respective instruments, look no further. I'm still not totally 'sold' on growl-styled vocals, but they are a perfect fit for the music, sooooo.........
I need to get some Death, Vektor, and Gojira into my ever-growing vinyl collection.
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Posted: June 29 2016 at 15:41 |
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I have thought about all this again, and changed my mind.
Certainly, it is possible to combine progressive musical structures and a progressive mindset with techniques from death metal such as blastbeats and growling, and that may be called "progressive death metal", even though it is perhaps no longer really death metal by ideology. Gojira may be an example (I don't like their music much, it sounds ugly, but their environmentalism is something I sympathize with, even though I think Sea Shepherd, whom they support, sometimes go a bit too far).
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Posted: June 29 2016 at 15:44 |
WeepingElf wrote:
I have thought about all this again, and changed my mind.
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 This has never before happened on the Internet!
Seriously, good on you. We could do with a bit more of such open-mindedness 
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 05:43 |
Smurph wrote:
WeepingElf wrote:
Smurph wrote:
So instrumental 70's prog bands don't exist because they don't have the right lyrical themes. |
Lyrics are not the only way of expressing things in music.
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So you wouldn't consider a band like Present a progressive band? Because their music is pretty bleak. Truly feels like there is no hope for humanity when listening to them, even though they are from the 70's. |
Great Scot! Did anyone tell Bob Dylan about that lyrics are not always important? I agree with you Smurph, putting prog in a box of your own perceptions, like WeepingElf, really takes the progressive out of prog rock. Btw WeepingElf, if you listen to the EPs Carbon Based Anatomy and Retraced by Cynic, along with their last album Kindly Bent To Free US, you will find winks to Mahavishnu Orchestra as well as nods to the "classic prog" sound that you seem so hung up on, courtesy of a guitar syntherzier.
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WeepingElf
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 13:38 |
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As I have said yesterday, I have realized that I was wrong.
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 14:18 |
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Yeah I think we can give it a rest for this discussion seeing as it is a bit off-topic of the original question. Maybe this can be continued in a different thread?
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Smurph
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 14:45 |
I'm just going to copy and paste my awesome prog death metal list I made because everyone ignored it
Necrophagist- insane technical sh*tGorod- even more insane technical stuff-their new album is awesome Veld- Blackened Death Metal - great stuff Melechesh- Their most recent few albums are less black metal and more riffy tech death with middle eastern influences- like a heavier Orphaned Land Irreversible Mechanism- like Necrophagist with keyboards Yakuza - (death/heavymetal with saxophone) Dan Swano's Moontower- Like Rush meets Opeth Lascaille's Shroud- MAJOR opeth worship with sci-fi influence Ayahuasca - Instinct (EP) - Death Metal but some cool other influences True- Symptoms- Death Metal with a tambura being played too- SO good :) Beyond Creation- insane tech death with awesome fretless bass playing- very melodic- their second album is more melodic and their first album is more over the top w**kery- both awesome Unhuman- alien tech death Demilich- the original alien gurgle brutal tech death Wormed- over the top brutal science fiction tech death Cryptomnesia - Primordial Oddity - badass symphonic tech death instrumental stuff
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 15:09 |
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^ I didn't ignore it, just failed to respond! My knowledge of death metal is pretty minimal, but some of these bands sound really interesting and I plan check them out, so thanks.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 23:42 |
It's a whole new world of insanely technical music. Tread carefully 
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Posted: July 11 2016 at 19:36 |
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I enjoy some of those bands. For sure Dying Fetus is a must. Periphery has had some good proggish aspects.
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Posted: July 12 2016 at 06:03 |
Opeth and Borknagar. And maybe Subterranean Masquerade (less heavy than Opeth) and Agalloch (close to the world of dark/black metal). 
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