Brexit leave voters vs. Trump supporters.

When Donald Trump publicly supported the UK's right to leave the EU, he implied similarities of the feelings of his US supporters with that of UK's Brexiters. I feel that the similarities  between the two are mostly superficial as there are vastly different political and economic systems between the United States and any member nation of the EU. But are there some true similarities to the UK leave voters such as "immigrants  are taking away our jobs"  and "we want our country back", etc., that seem to be both the mantra  and main issues of Trumps' supporters?   

Edited by SteveG - July 16 2016 at 04:27

Blacksword wrote: Our health service is run by vast numbers of immigrants because we can't train enough nurses and doctors here.

Seems like you have too many patients. How is importing more people going to help?

I don't know about the level of racial hatred and ignorance of Brexit voters, I'm sure there are other issues there that caused the result. It would be unfair to paint all of the Brexit voters with the same brush. I've even read doctored articles finding positives about Brexit. I suppose it was better to remain than to leave but even I, coming from a leftist perspective, can find things that may be better about not being bound to the elite bureaucracy of Brussels. 

^

Well, I can’t (or will not) comment on the UK’s decision to leave the EU, as I’ve always been a guest of the British government, who graciously let me visit and at times work in the UK.

As an American, I can comment on the Trump supporters. I also feel that most are not the closet KKK that they are betrayed to be. Although, a few could be.

Where I think the problem arises with Trump supporters is the notion that Trump can magically recall  numerous jobs and industries back to the US from “overseas”, which is generally China. This is a pure pipe dream. The infrastructure to support those jobs, as well as the factories and necessary tooling is long gone and will never return. Unfortunately, China remains some unknown entity to Americans. For God’s sake, why? The US borrows money from China and imports practically every household item from that country.

 

Perhaps it’s time that Americans realize that all the cheap imports that they enjoyed years ago are coming back to haunt them. The ghosts of jobs and factories that Mr. Trump can never conger up for them, as if pulling a rabbit from a hat.

It's this type of mass delusion that frightens me.

 

Edit: Sorry for the large script as I'm trying out a new visual aid on my PC, and I'm still working out the bugs.

 

 

 

Edited by SteveG - July 16 2016 at 04:43

Dean wrote: I wouldn't do that to Republican voters either, who through no fault of their own now find themselves supporting a candidate that not only has overtly racist supporters, he has actively campaigned to incite and promote racial tension and fear.

I'll do that for both of us.  Trump is doing nothing that 20+ years of Republican leaders have not done themselves.  His crime is stripping away politco double speak and nicities.  That is what scares the Republican establishment... it isn't he doesn't beleive the same things... he makes it hard for even the ignorant and ambliivlant (ie most Republican voters) to ignore the fact their party, their leaders stand for division, fear, and discrimation.

The elephant in the room of American Politics is that The Republican Party is a ideologically bankrupt party.. whose only recourse to stay relevant.. stay in power... is to appeal to peoples fear.

Communists, Gays, Transgender, Hispanics, and now Muslims...

Taking a page from Trump.  Speaking without nicities. Those who support bigots and racists.. are in themselves such.  America is changing.... either you embrace it as part of what the flag beaters always say makes this country so great.. or you actively fight (through legislation) against those elements changing and harken back to what made American 'great' in the eyes of Republicans... when white Christians made the rules and immigration from other countries was outlawed... and blacks.. which we could not deport or shift out of the country once this country freed them..  well just lynch them.

good to see you back Steve...

Thanks micky. It's a bit strange but I'm getting re-acclimated. If such a word exists!

Am I the only one to think that Donald "Duck" Trump and Boris "BoJo The Clown" could be idiot twin brothers???
Physically, they both look like retarded blond idiots...
And as soon as they open their garbage trap, they go out and prove they are.

^ a momentary off-topic hijacking but what are your views on the likelihood of an FTA between the India and the UK Madan?