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Posted: August 27 2016 at 19:38

Ummagumma easily, live stuff is wonderful

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Posted: August 27 2016 at 19:47

I'd vote but the flautist is sitting on me.

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Posted: August 27 2016 at 21:02

For me Stand Up is by far the best and most interesting.....one of my favorite things from those days.

Yes and Genesis are mediocre and while the live tracks are Umma are good the studio stuff is downright embarrassing.

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Posted: August 27 2016 at 23:37

Ummagumma even if I do adore that Tull album. And yes the studio side is brilliant! I think I prefer it over the live one.

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Posted: August 28 2016 at 00:49

Jethro Tull - Stand Up

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Posted: August 28 2016 at 04:40

The Floyd album is the only 'progressive' album listed here. A bit unfair to put the Genesis one in - to level things up in a 69 poll perhaps a Nice, Egg, Soft Machine, Zappa or Moody Blues album should be here instead.

It should be noted that Phillips left Genesis of his own volition due to stage fright/health issues. Even as late as 73, the band recorded 'Twilight Alehouse', which he co-wrote. He was very much part of the vision. The band decided to oust Mayhew at the same time, simply because they felt he was not up to it.

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Posted: August 28 2016 at 11:59

Flight123 wrote:

The Floyd album is the only 'progressive' album listed here. A bit unfair to put the Genesis one in - to level things up in a 69 poll perhaps a Nice, Egg, Soft Machine, Zappa or Moody Blues album should be here instead.

The object of the poll was to show four bands with releases in 1969 who later attained prog super-stardom, not merely pick various albums from 1969 for your edification. So yes, Genesis was included. How is that unfair exactly?

And I am fairly certain that no one considered Ummagumma "progressive" in 1969. It was still psychedelia at that point, and an argument can be made that Floyd did not actually leave the psych sphere until DSotM, or if earlier Atom Heart Mother's suite (although the rest of the album remains firmly rooted in psych). Ask anyone who dropped acid back then. Wink

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Posted: August 28 2016 at 12:47

Indeed, respect to the poll setter! I get the logic behind the poll and concede the list is about 'super stardom'. The reason I made the comment about the Genesis album was that it was a bit of an aberration. School band gives tape to old boy (Jonathan King) in the music business and hey presto, in the studio during summer hols at the age of 16 making an album! Rutherford concedes they were incredibly lucky. They didn't start doing gigs until a year later.

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Posted: August 28 2016 at 15:32

Yes - Yes.

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Posted: August 28 2016 at 16:00

Stand Up over Ummagumma

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Posted: August 28 2016 at 21:19

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The live stuff is on Ummagumma so it should count, and it easily wins the day. That's not "skewing the poll", that's just what this album is. The live tracks on Ummagumma aren't only better than the studio disc, they are much better also than the studio originals of the live songs. I didn't see Pink Floyd live at the time but I think they were much more a live than a studio band and Ummagumma live is much closer to what the band was about than any of their studio recordings of the period.
I don't really understand the tendency of some here not to take live material seriously.

Interesting by the way to see how Ummagumma wins this one and loses hopelessly in the other one against AHM.

I also have the impression that at their early era, the real Pink Floyd was the live Pink Floyd. The real versions of their songs were the live ones, while the studio ones are just small samples of the real thing. As for the poll, unfortunatley I don't know the Genesis one, so I dare not vote, but I really doubt I would enjoy it better than the live Ummagumma disc.

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Posted: September 04 2016 at 10:33

I like very much all four albums and my sorting order is:

Jethro Tull _ Stand Up

Yes - Yes
Pink Floyd - Ummagumma
Genesis - Genesis to Revelation

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Posted: September 05 2016 at 05:41

The only one that was No. 1 in the UK and Eddie Vedder's (supposed) favourite album of all time.

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Posted: September 05 2016 at 05:47

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The only one that was No. 1 in the UK and Eddie Vedder's (supposed) favourite album of all time.

and I don't know which one it is. LOL

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Posted: September 05 2016 at 06:18

Cristi wrote:

BarryGlibb wrote:

The only one that was No. 1 in the UK and Eddie Vedder's (supposed) favourite album of all time.

and I don't know which one it is. LOL

He means Stand Up, but Moody Blues hit the No.1 spot in 1969 with On The Threshold Of A Dream before them so technically was the first No.1 album by a Prog band.

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Posted: September 05 2016 at 08:42

Dean wrote:

Cristi wrote:

BarryGlibb wrote:

The only one that was No. 1 in the UK and Eddie Vedder's (supposed) favourite album of all time.

and I don't know which one it is. LOL

He means Stand Up, but Moody Blues hit the No.1 spot in 1969 with On The Threshold Of A Dream before them so technically was the first No.1 album by a Prog band.

I don't believe Barry referred to Stand Up as the first No. 1 by a Prog band, Dean. I believe he merely meant that of the four albums in question, it was the only one to hit No. 1.

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Posted: September 05 2016 at 08:50

The Dark Elf wrote:

Dean wrote:

Cristi wrote:

BarryGlibb wrote:

The only one that was No. 1 in the UK and Eddie Vedder's (supposed) favourite album of all time.

and I don't know which one it is. LOL

He means Stand Up, but Moody Blues hit the No.1 spot in 1969 with On The Threshold Of A Dream before them so technically was the first No.1 album by a Prog band.

I don't believe Barry referred to Stand Up as the first No. 1 by a Prog band, Dean. I believe he merely meant that of the four albums in question, it was the only one to hit No. 1.

Wasn't implying that he did, it was just a follow-on fact provided for entertainment.

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Posted: September 05 2016 at 08:55

Dean wrote:

The Dark Elf wrote:

Dean wrote:

Cristi wrote:

BarryGlibb wrote:

The only one that was No. 1 in the UK and Eddie Vedder's (supposed) favourite album of all time.

and I don't know which one it is. LOL

He means Stand Up, but Moody Blues hit the No.1 spot in 1969 with On The Threshold Of A Dream before them so technically was the first No.1 album by a Prog band.

I don't believe Barry referred to Stand Up as the first No. 1 by a Prog band, Dean. I believe he merely meant that of the four albums in question, it was the only one to hit No. 1.

Wasn't implying that he did, it was just a follow-on fact provided for entertainment.

Thank you, Dean, for your adroit factoid.

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Posted: September 05 2016 at 09:28

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Thank you, Dean, for your adroit factoid.

'Twas Tull's only UK No.1 too and together with the Moodies they are the only Prog artists to have UK No.1 albums in the 1960s. Co-incidentally both artists were the first Prog bands to have chart No.1's in the USA with Thick as a Brick and Seventh Sojourn in 1972, neither of which hit No.1 in the UK.

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Posted: September 05 2016 at 09:35

Dean wrote:

The Dark Elf wrote:

Thank you, Dean, for your adroit factoid.

Thank you, Dean, for your continued astuteness regarding chart placement. I am waiting for someone to put forth the argument that The Moody Blues were in fact proto-prog, as that was the designation on the vinyl bins according to used record-sellers. Wink

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Poll Question: Which of these albums do you prefer?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Genesis - Genesis to Revelation	4	[5.97%]
Jethro Tull - Stand Up	27	[40.30%]
Pink Floyd - Ummagumma	27	[40.30%]
Yes - Yes	9	[13.43%]
This topic is closed, no new votes accepted