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    Posted: August 31 2016 at 03:59
Something I picked up from another, albeit at times, sillier prog site. Do later less impressive albums from groups like Yes, with their continual band incarnations with different members, and less stellar albums like Union, somehow diminish the listening pleasure of earlier classic albums like Fragile or CTTE? This has zero effect on me, but how about you?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 04:12
It has zero effect on me as well!  The music is always 'as it is'!  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 04:13
Definitely not. If anything, they just increase the 'wow' factor of those earlier recordings.
Then again, for some folks, maybe their first taste of Yes is Heaven And Earth, they may like it a lot, then hear Relayer and say it's just weird noise.......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 04:16
Indeed, it makes me wonder how those Phil Collins fans in the 80s reacted when they decided to explore his stuff with early Genesis or took a punt on a Brand X album...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 04:19
One example, Jethro Tull, has so many albums that the few duds do not affect it much.  Even Under Wraps has some good songs and charm to it.  However, if a group only has 3 albums, I think their whole catalog starts to look weaker.  There will always be some groups that have one hit wonders, and finding those gems are worthwhile even if the group doesn't have much else of interest.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 04:37
no, it does not happen, a lot of bands I love have screwed things up (Yes, Queensryche, Iron Maiden, Scorpions, Metallica, Def Leppard, even Dream Theater and many others) and released weak albums but this in no way makes me love less the albums I've enjoyed from them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 04:58
Zero effect on me too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 05:13
Also zero effect on me. Every album should be judged individually.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 05:31
Quite the contrary as far as I'm concerned. If a band has made some incredible albums, I'll tend to think of lesser albums as "pure crap" instead of "not that good" because I'll think of what they've already been able to do.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 08:05
A mediocre album cannot diminish the listening pleasure of earlier albums, but it may affect my interest in the band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 11:22
I read the reviews on this site now, so have never listened to Union, but as I only started buying music in 1976 I was put off most prog groups by their bin end output. Having eventually discovered the earlier stuff though I would say my pleasure in that has actually been enhanced by the shock of realising just how much better it was Cool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 11:42
Such albums may diminish the reputation of the artists involved, but not the earlier better albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 11:57
Lesser albums do not change my opinion of better albums or the band in general.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 12:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 12:47
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Such albums may diminish the reputation of the artists involved, but not the earlier better albums.

Exactly.

This is avery weird concept to me that a bad album can diminish the strength/enjoyment of a good one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 13:51
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Such albums may diminish the reputation of the artists involved, but not the earlier better albums.

Exactly.

This is avery weird concept to me that a bad album can diminish the strength/enjoyment of a good one.



yeah.. end of conversation.  Either judge the artist on the whole for which the stinkers are not forgiven.. or the album for which the stinkers mean jack sh*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 16:02
No.

Also, every Yes album is a 10/10 in my book.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 16:24
Not at all. Most artists have one or two stinkers, but a great album is a great album regardless of what else the band has released
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2016 at 20:46
No. And I don't think many people would think that way, for then most albums would be diminished once the band/artist starts losing it's edge... which happens to almost all of them.
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