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^ when Roger Taylor wrote the song, punk had not even started.
Just like Stone Cold Crazy, rather a proto metal, even proto-thrash kind a song. Maybe punks were influenced by Queen.
It's a funny thing, that whether or not one likes Queen, they influenced many, and were influenced by many.
Somebody to Love was inspired by Aretha Franklin. Not many rockbands are influenced by soul/gospel.
Another One Bites the Dust was inspired by black funk.
Crazy Little Thing Called Love was a rockabilly song inspired by Elvis.
etc. etc.
Michael Jackson even said that he could use a bassline like Deacon came up with for Another One Bites the Dust.
But hey! I am a huge Queen enthousiast. I like all their experimentations. In my opinion the only song not really great would be I Want to Break Free and Invisible Man, wich sound too juvenile to me. And I don't really like rock'n'roll and rockabilly, so I can't really enjoy the song Crazy Little Thing Called Love.
Deacon established his identity as a copycat with this bass line . It strongly resembled Sugarhill Gang's Rapper's Delight, which was released just a short while before.
Edited by someone_else - September 28 2016 at 03:56
People moan about stuff here all the time (Genesis, Rush, Pink Floyd). I'd not really noticed a buoyant spirit of optimistic good feeling pervading through topic comments, well, most of the time anyway. A "worst" post is merely making it all honest and well focusing the debate. Nothing like other points of view.
Who knows what may happen next on these forums? The excitement and anticipation is nearly tangible.
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Posted: September 28 2016 at 04:13
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Deacon established his identity as a copycat with this bass line . It strongly resembled Sugarhill Gang's Rapper's Delight, which was released just a short while before.
It resembles a bit but it's not a rip-off.
Deacon enjoyed funk, there's more on Hot Space (Dancer, Staying Power, Cool Cat, Back Chat). It's influence, not theft.
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Posted: September 28 2016 at 04:21
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You want classes? I can give you a special rate . Anyway, though knowing Italian is a bonus for RPI listening, it is not at all essential. The music speaks for itself even if you don't understand the lyrics (which are often quite good, much better than their English counterparts).
Regarding the negative threads, I am in complete agreement with you. Unfortunately, unless the Admins decide to take action (which would amount to a form of censorship), I'm afraid they're here to stay.
I have a rudimentary command of Italian, Raff. Just enough to keep from getting gipped by a cab driver in Rome. But I feel quite ill at ease not being able to understand the lyrics of RPI songs. As I understand, there not the superfluous meanderings of Jon Anderson. Which I suppose is quite beneficial for prog fans that don't speak English.
Edited by SteveG - September 28 2016 at 04:21
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Posted: September 28 2016 at 04:42
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Deacon established his identity as a copycat with this bass line . It strongly resembled Sugarhill Gang's Rapper's Delight, which was released just a short while before.
Actually he borrowed the bassline from Good Times by Chic. Funny thing is, that Queen never worked with Nile Rodgers (although Bowie did). Queen however were influenced by Duran Duran when they were working on The Works, wich was produced by Nile Rodgers.
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Apparently Queen was at an all down low, after the lukewarm response on Hot Space, and they almost wanted to quit altogether.
Then they got together to make one last album. "let's give 'em the works", is what Taylor said.
Inspired by Duran Duran and other new wave-bands they started writing and recording. The result is what we now know as the eclectic mix of synthpop and hardrock. That's what I always understood. They wanted to sound fresh and abandon the disco/funk antics they used on Hot Space, so in return they turned towards new wave/synthpop.
Then there was the opportunity of playing on Live Aid. A huge worldwide broadcast musical event, where Queen shared the stage with Duran Duran amongst many many others. Queen was considered the best act that day, and uptil now the performance they gave, is considered the best live-performance by any artist ever (!!!).
So they didn't call it quits after The Works, and released several more singles and albums.
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It's all just modeled on the discourse patterns of Tony Banks. What could be more in the spirit of Progressive Rock?
A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now)
"If you've got nothing nice to say, say nothing." More people should live by this. We have more than our share of critics in the world. We need more encouragers, more with positives to say. It's a huge shame that positive reviews are generally dismissed as "gushing" and "fanboyish". It's far better for the soul to read good words, especially about things you enjoy as well.
Spot on. This: "We need more encouragers, more with positives to say". Iīm getting sick and tired of these useless "worst list" like many other members here. They are plain useless.
"Itīs far better for the soul to read good words, especially things about you enjoy as well". Exactly.If you donīt like say Uriah Heep then go away.
But those "best lists" are getting even more funny, havenīt they ? Because almost every time you try to bring a new aspect to these "common" opinions about "the best of" or whatever, there will be a moron dissing your very thoughtful & intelligent review right away. And just for a little/irrelevant matter like " I donīt like that guitar sound here or there, otherwise itīs OK". How stupid is that ? An certain album is a masterpiece as such but oneīs negative opinion about say a musiciansī political (or racial) views about some things doesnīt lessen itīs value, as such. Sorry my clumsy English, Iīm not a writer really. Anyway...
I laughed at those damn critics already in the early 70īs, for those booooring old farts. They really wanted to kill all the incredible bands we kids loved, Uriah Heep, Black Sabbath, ELP (in particular), Yes etc. But they failed miserably because we kids bought EXACTLY the album critics hated LOL.
And like Rick Wakeman I just laughed at punk in 1976. Happy times
And ASIAīs two first album are brilliant (prog) rock records, the very FINEST from that utterly dull 80īs, you doubting morons (grin).
You may see a smile on Tony Banksī face but thatīs unlikely.
"If you've got nothing nice to say, say nothing." More people should live by this. We have more than our share of critics in the world. We need more encouragers, more with positives to say. It's a huge shame that positive reviews are generally dismissed as "gushing" and "fanboyish". It's far better for the soul to read good words, especially about things you enjoy as well.
Spot on. This: "We need more encouragers, more with positives to say". Iīm getting sick and tired of these useless "worst list" like many other members here. They are plain useless.
"Itīs far better for the soul to read good words, especially things about you enjoy as well". Exactly.If you donīt like say Uriah Heep then go away.
But those "best lists" are getting even more funny, havenīt they ? Because almost every time you try to bring a new aspect to these "common" opinions about "the best of" or whatever, there will be a moron dissing your very thoughtful & intelligent review right away. And just for a little/irrelevant matter like " I donīt like that guitar sound here or there, otherwise itīs OK". How stupid is that ? An certain album is a masterpiece as such but oneīs negative opinion about say a musiciansī political (or racial) views about some things doesnīt lessen itīs value, as such. Sorry my clumsy English, Iīm not a writer really. Anyway...
I laughed at those damn critics already in the early 70īs, for those booooring old farts. They really wanted to kill all the incredible bands we kids loved, Uriah Heep, Black Sabbath, ELP (in particular), Yes etc. But they failed miserably because we kids bought EXACTLY the album critics hated LOL.
And like Rick Wakeman I just laughed at punk in 1976. Happy times
And ASIAīs two first album are brilliant (prog) rock records, the very FINEST from that utterly dull 80īs, you doubting morons (grin).
Why? First, it's a laugh. Second people have to let off steam. Third we humans are going to call something awful anyway. Fourth it provides a place for contrary views , unlikely as this is going to be in the world of prog rock, surely. Fifth, it might allow a new view point on music. e.g. all these stuffy views that Asia are not a prog rock band. Yeah right with Carl Palmer being his own percussion section as well as drummer. Sixth - more or less free speech in acceptable environments. Seventh this is not an evangelical environment (except for Jon Anderson who would be horrified were it not so); that is where everyone takes a nice happy clappy view and is on the road to enlightenment.
"If you've got nothing nice to say, say nothing." More people should live by this. We have more than our share of critics in the world. We need more encouragers, more with positives to say. It's a huge shame that positive reviews are generally dismissed as "gushing" and "fanboyish". It's far better for the soul to read good words, especially about things you enjoy as well.
Spot on. This: "We need more encouragers, more with positives to say". Iīm getting sick and tired of these useless "worst list" like many other members here. They are plain useless.
"Itīs far better for the soul to read good words, especially things about you enjoy as well". Exactly.If you donīt like say Uriah Heep then go away.
But those "best lists" are getting even more funny, havenīt they ? Because almost every time you try to bring a new aspect to these "common" opinions about "the best of" or whatever, there will be a moron dissing your very thoughtful & intelligent review right away. And just for a little/irrelevant matter like " I donīt like that guitar sound here or there, otherwise itīs OK". How stupid is that ? An certain album is a masterpiece as such but oneīs negative opinion about say a musiciansī political (or racial) views about some things doesnīt lessen itīs value, as such. Sorry my clumsy English, Iīm not a writer really. Anyway...
I laughed at those damn critics already in the early 70īs, for those booooring old farts. They really wanted to kill all the incredible bands we kids loved, Uriah Heep, Black Sabbath, ELP (in particular), Yes etc. But they failed miserably because we kids bought EXACTLY the album critics hated LOL.
And like Rick Wakeman I just laughed at punk in 1976. Happy times
And ASIAīs two first album are brilliant (prog) rock records, the very FINEST from that utterly dull 80īs, you doubting morons (grin).
Why? First, it's a laugh. Second people have to let off steam. Third we humans are going to call something awful anyway. Fourth it provides a place for contrary views , unlikely as this is going to be in the world of prog rock, surely. Fifth, it might allow a new view point on music. e.g. all these stuffy views that Asia are not a prog rock band. Yeah right with Carl Palmer being his own percussion section as well as drummer. Sixth - more or less free speech in acceptable environments. Seventh this is not an evangelical environment (except for Jon Anderson who would be horrified were it not so); that is where everyone takes a nice happy clappy view and is on the road to enlightenment.
But mainly, it's a laugh.
Nothing but a , in the end of a day. I have know this for forty years and actually itīs kinda entertaining because I will have fun reading all those morounic comments over and over again here and there because they wonīt stop, some people are arrogant and usually just plain stupid. And therefore Iīm actually getting known people here better, to whom talk to and whom not and not waste my precious time. Life is short. Iīm interested in sharing and hopefully getting info, especially about artists that are not so well known yet. I have already found two interesting bands never known before. Great. But spreading disinformation for whatever reasons is never constructive.
Jon Anderson is an intellectual, like we or not. I personally like intellectual. As for drummers, Carl Palmer still reigns supreme after all these decades, heīs actually better than in ELPīs prime. Because heīs still enjoying playing and wants to make progress. And is young. Simple thing.
Heīs hard to "beat", so are Franz di Cioccio and Furio Chirico still today, IMHO.
Seems they never get old.
Edited by Son.of.Tiresias - October 15 2016 at 09:53
You may see a smile on Tony Banksī face but thatīs unlikely.
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. It strongly resembled Sugarhill Gang's Rapper's Delight, which was released just a short while before.
. Anyway, though knowing Italian is a bonus for RPI listening, it is not at all essential. The music speaks for itself even if you don't understand the lyrics (which are often quite good, much better than their English counterparts).
