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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2005 at 13:24

Originally posted by bumheed7 bumheed7 wrote:

Originally posted by Retrovertigo Retrovertigo wrote:

There are a giant amount of drummers in prog that are better than Neil Peart.  Even when Peart was in his prime.  Vinnie Colaiuta anybody?


off of? my extensive prog knowledge is poor

 

Colaiuta is definitely more skilled as a drummer but i'm not too sure about him being as impactful, innovative or creative as peart.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2005 at 14:03
Originally posted by hukt on fonikzz hukt on fonikzz wrote:

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being overrated is not an opinion, neil peart lived up to his glory, and you can't just say he is overrated because you prefer other drummers.

how is it not an opinion "i think neil peart is overrated"
it isnt a fact is it? or can you somehow answer that question for me...


You only think he is overrated, so what you think is wrong, because Neil Peart has lived up to his glory.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2005 at 14:15

[QUOTE=Retrovertigo]There are a giant amount of drummers in prog that are better than Neil Peart.  Even when Peart was in his prime.  Vinnie Colaiuta anybody? [/QUOTE

Giant amount?? Realy?? Oh there must be something wrong on sites like "drummerworld" or "modern drummer". They never mentioned any giant amount as the most influental and creative drummer but Peart.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2005 at 16:23
Originally posted by Shack Man Shack Man wrote:

Originally posted by hukt on fonikzz hukt on fonikzz wrote:

Originally posted by Shack Man Shack Man wrote:

being overrated is not an opinion, neil peart lived up to his glory, and you can't just say he is overrated because you prefer other drummers.

how is it not an opinion "i think neil peart is overrated"
it isnt a fact is it? or can you somehow answer that question for me...


You only think he is overrated, so what you think is wrong, because Neil Peart has lived up to his glory.

so YOU are telling ME what my opinion is...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2005 at 18:34

I don't know, "O Baterista" is a pretty jaw-dropping 8 minutes of drum solo and spectacle.  Do the Cobhams, Colautas, and Collins of the world really have anything equivalent in their repertoires?  Not really.  The performance really speaks for itself - that's 1 guy creating all that sound - and there's a reason he's famous for it, because it's damn impressive.  Compare that to the dual drumming of Bruford & Mastoletto or Collins & Thompson - it takes at least 2 guys to even come close to Peart's energy (the only exception might be Terry Bozzio, who is also pretty much a one man drumming machine).  Sure, Colaiuta and Gadd and others may have more technique/fluidity/spontaneity in a jazz setting, but how would they hack it in Rush?  Can they rock out for 2 1/2 hour shows?  There's a big difference between drumming light adult-oriented pop for Sting or laid-back Zappa jazz rock and having to power-down on the drums for a rock gig.  However talented those guys are, they quite simply do not have anything as intense as Peart.

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2005 at 19:03
I get tired of threads like these.  Some of us think that Neil is absolutely the best drummer ever.  Others (specifically dallasbryan and some others who posted in this thread) obviously don't for whatever reason.  However, I think anyone with an open mind and without bias would admit he is one of the best.

As for the next Neil Peart - probably Portnoy but I don't even think he comes close.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2005 at 19:50

Peart- will always be the best in my eyes- seemed like he was the 1st to pull off many tracks on the set- everyone else that follows is simply a great replica- (if thats possible- ie, Portnoy)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2005 at 19:55

Originally posted by sonic wizard sonic wizard wrote:

Another good reason to nominate Portnoy is because like Peart, he has great songwriting ability. We should be evaluating candidates on not only drumming technique (which is still very important), but also other musical abilities such as songwriting, composing, singing, or whatever. Which reminds me, Portnoy isn't to shabby at backup vocals.

 it goes to MR. Portnoy who else????????

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2005 at 21:57
Originally posted by ulver982 ulver982 wrote:

Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

Originally posted by Damen Damen wrote:

Originally posted by ulver982 ulver982 wrote:

but even better then all, the drummer in the White Stripes.  She's crazy on the drums...watch out neil!

I hope that's sarcasm

That band is NOT about the drums....it fits the song, and if she's so bad, what should she do to make it sound "better"?

 

What?? She could a million and one things to make White Stripes better.  Maybe a fill once in awhile would help.

I've yet to hear a song by them that the drums Don't work with the song......it's the Less is More style taken to the extreme, but hey, if you don't like it, whatever. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2005 at 22:19
Originally posted by hukt on fonikzz hukt on fonikzz wrote:

Originally posted by Shack Man Shack Man wrote:

Originally posted by hukt on fonikzz hukt on fonikzz wrote:

Originally posted by Shack Man Shack Man wrote:

being overrated is not an opinion, neil peart lived up to his glory, and you can't just say he is overrated because you prefer other drummers.

how is it not an opinion "i think neil peart is overrated"
it isnt a fact is it? or can you somehow answer that question for me...


You only think he is overrated, so what you think is wrong, because Neil Peart has lived up to his glory.

so YOU are telling ME what my opinion is...


Well let me explain, what you said "I think neil peart is overrated" is like saying "I think 2 plus 2 equals 34."  You just thought wrong upon a fact.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 15:08
Originally posted by Shack Man Shack Man wrote:

Originally posted by hukt on fonikzz hukt on fonikzz wrote:

Originally posted by Shack Man Shack Man wrote:

Originally posted by hukt on
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Originally posted by Shack Man Shack Man wrote:

being overrated is not an opinion, neil peart lived up to his glory, and you can't just say he is overrated because you prefer other drummers.

how is it not an opinion "i think neil peart is overrated"
it isnt a fact is it? or can you somehow answer that question for me...


You only think he is overrated, so what you think is wrong, because Neil Peart has lived up to his glory.

so YOU are telling ME what my opinion is...


Well let me explain, what you said "I think neil peart is overrated" is like saying "I think 2 plus 2 equals 34."  You just thought wrong upon a fact.

fact? this is ridiculous, no where does it say that neil peart isnt overatted, is this written in some book or magazine ive never heard of? Did someone declare to the world that he is better than everyone? tell me, where is this "fact" you speak of?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:04
I could go the rest of my life without hearing about Portnoy. A drummer's true merit is in live playing.

Anyways, I'd have to say Jon Theodore or Danny Carey are probably in line for progressive greatness, even if I don't like Tool that much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:14

 

Junior Neil Pearts can be found on this Drumline Clip.

 

 Click HERE to view the clip

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:21
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

 

Junior Neil Pearts can be found on this Drumline Clip.

 

 Click HERE to view the clip

That is superb!!! 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:24
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:


Junior Neil Pearts can be found on this Drumline Clip.



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COOL! Where do you find all these great vids?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 18:36
Neil Peart still best drummer as live in Rio testafies!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 19:39
I have a question for all you portnoy fans...

what is it that he does that is so spectacular?

I mean hes a good drummer but i'm perplexed as to why everyone thinks he's a god. I know hes got alot more going for him than the average drummer (songwriting, head of dt) but whats so mind blowing about his playing??? As a drummer - from a technical standpoint, his playing does absolutly nothing for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 19:40

The reason why Neil Peart should be considered a legend in not because he is or was the best. That discussion is pointless.

 

He should not be remembered as “the best” but as the drummer who revolutionized drum playing.

 

ALL of the drummers mentioned in this thread deserve recognition because ALL of them are excellent. Some of them may be “better”.

Whatever “better” means.

Whether he is better, worse, overrated or underrated is pointless.

 

Who do you think that has the ability to revolutionize again drum playing?

 

…that is the question.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 20:57

portnoy, because he is a mix between Peart and Lars Ulrich.......

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 21:15
Originally posted by hukt on fonikzz hukt on fonikzz wrote:


fact? this is ridiculous, no where does it say that neil peart isnt overatted, is this written in some book or magazine ive never heard of? Did someone declare to the world that he is better than everyone? tell me, where is this "fact" you speak of?


It doesn't have to said, it lies within the music he plays; he deserves his credit.  And oh yes, I stated that neil peart is better than everyone else... (sarcasm)   He just isn't overrated, he is certainly not better than everyone else; how the hell would anyone know of the best drummer, its impossible.
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