Trump v Hillary: Are there two Americas?

Hillary represents George Soros.

There are 43597250 Americas. There's not just two. But there is one of them that is a cohesive, closed group that has sadly decided to wake up encouraged by the Orange One. It was always there, but it was on the fringes, it was outcast. Now it's almost respectable. 

It doesn't suck. 

IMO there has always been 2 Americas (not counting the relatively small groups who claim they are independent or libertarians, etc..).......my dad has been dead for 20 years but he would have voted for Trump ...he never voted Democrat and it didn't matter if the GOP guy was an a****le.

There certainly does appear to be at least two Americas, but that tension can sometimes be productive;  the things that do work about the US work well, and the pull between a traditional puritanism and forwarded progressivism can sometimes result in the same messy but inventive progress one sees in any nation of free-thinkers (even if largely ignorant).  Sure I sometimes wish we had the cohesion of a Germany or an England, but they have problems I wouldn't give to a monkey on a rock.  The grass is always greener.
  

Like a giant play of dutch ball

SteveG wrote: Trump represents disenfranchised Republicans. Hillary represents Obama's Democratic legacy. But what's at the heart of this great divide that has even seen conservative Republicans at war with themselves and by extension, with Trump himself. Why? What's the real cause of this great political rift that has seen obscenity become the norm? Racism? Feelings of exclusion? The death of the "American Dream"? Are there two Americas that make up the USA? "Repubs & Dems" and "Trump's People"?

I hate one and I have no sympathy for the other...the other is a woman.

Largely, yeah. 

Edited by JJLehto - October 17 2016 at 23:35

timothy leary wrote: Let's see West and East North and South Rich and Poor Old and Young White and Non white Male and Female Straight and Gay Religious and Not Religious and on and on and off

I was thinking the exact same thing as I read these posts. The universe is all about balance, Left / Right, Up / Down, Forwards,/ Backwards. The question is, "What direction do you think you should be going?" Now, I'm Canadian, so mine is an outsiders view in a way. But I've been working on and off south of the border for a few years now. From Michigan to Ohio, from Missouri to Kentucky, which has given me a small insight to your regional political views. In a small way our last election mirrored your election this year. Two very different points of view, even though we have a fairly well supported third party. In the end we Canadians had to decide what kind of country we believed we were. A Progressive Conservative one under a leader that wanted to ban religious dressings and implement a Barbaric Culture Hotline, or a Liberal one that wanted to provide Equal and Fair opportunity and respect to ALL who live or choose to live in our great nation. We overwhelmingly choose the latter and I believe we became more respected on the world stage for it. That doesn't mean I think the Liberal party is flawless or that the Conservatives are evil (although Harper came pretty close), but I believe we made it clear what we expect the world to think of when they think of Canadians. The US has the same basic choice to make. Yes, there are always going to be issues that no one believes the politicians are working on, or happy with the results of their decisions, but at the end of the day, the leader of our countries are supposed to represent and demonstrate what it means to be of our nationalities. I think the most recent debate and the response from both sides of the fence has spoken clearly, now it's up to you, the voters. Will you be a single issue voter, or will you vote for the choice that most represents what it means to be an American (or as we hear it Merican)? Good luck on Nov. 8th. The world will be watching.


Edited by JD - October 21 2016 at 12:53