Prog "Masterpieces" that you couldn't get into

Hercules wrote: CPicard wrote: - Most of Genesis' stuff.  - Every Yes release.  - King Crimson and everything Fripp-related.  - Soft Machine and the whole Canterbury School.  - RIO, zeuhl, kraut-rock, avant-garde and all this socialist crap.  - ELP, overestimated virtuosos whose only interesting repertoire was their cover of classical music, butchered by drums and electronic keyboards.  - Rush, a band that I just don't understand.  - Prog-metal, a hideous thing in itself. Id there anything you DO like?

Yeah: poor taste sarcasm.

BaldJean wrote: lostrom wrote: Scorpius wrote: Well thats a huge list for me 1. I despise suppers ready. Ive tried it many times and never got into it. Foxtrox's A side is great, but to me, Suppers Ready never really goes anywhere, it just meanders meaninglessly for 20 minutes.  LOL!!!  ... well, since that song defines what prog is, perhaps you... well... it hardly defines what prog is. anyway, Genesis just tried to do what their label mates Van der Graaf Generator had already done: a 20+ minutes song. "Supper's Ready" is however not as good as "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers"

Indeed, I believe I find the first half of Plague even better than Supper's Ready, but then it gets all distorted and I just can't enjoy the second half. On the other hand, Supper's Ready is beautiful all along and flows perfectly for it's whole length.

What really buggers me is that "Godbluff" is listed as the best VDGG album, no. 10 in PA's "best albums". Now I love VDGG far more than most bands including some of the biggies, but as far as I'm concerned, if you pick a VDGG album at random chances are considerably higher than 50% that I prefer it to Godbluff.

As someone else said above....there are many that don't click at times ,but.....to name a few...TFTO (side one is ok...)

Rush never clicked with me at all. I have no idea what some people see in them. but then de gustibus non est disputandum.

on the other hand I have no problem whatsoever with VdGG, unlike apparently a lot of others

BaldJean wrote: de gustibus non est disputandum

Hey, we're making progress.
   

Barbu wrote: BaldJean wrote: de gustibus non est disputandum Hey, we're making progress.

not at all. this has always been my opinion

Not many really come to mind for me to be honest. Usually an album that is considered a "masterpiece" is called that for a reason. I think ultimately it depends on the album. I can understand people not liking "Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh" or "Pawn Hearts" but in my opinion they are still great albums. Some so called great albums though do seem a bit watered down or maybe only parts are great or other parts are repetitious. For example, "Tales from topographic oceans" is repetitious in parts and some parts maybe go on too long. The same thing for "Brain Salad Surgery."(the whole "welcome back my friends part" just goes on too long and they repeat it too many times(it appears in two different sections for crying out loud). It doesn't make them bad albums but I think some editing and replacing certain parts with other parts would have been a better option rather than just beating an idea to death.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - November 30 2016 at 13:54

micky wrote: Hercules wrote: micky wrote: ^ pfff... they stole that intro from PFM's Appena un Po' .. and trust me man... they owned it.  No one does melody like Italians...  no one does bad food and great beer like the English British beer is astonishing, but don't diss the food. Real British food is delicious. Mind you, I'm really partial to our local American "Man v Food" diner (Huckleberry's York) as well. yeah.... sterotypes aside... if the faire of the local British pubs (said to be very authetic in this area as obviously we have a large expat, diplomatic community here)  is any guide .. it isn't half as bad as the jokes make it out to be. Surprisely... Raff really took to American cuisine... especially Southern.  And though not the drinker I am.. she agrees wholeheartedly with me that we have gone from the armpit of the beer brewing universe to its shining light.  The best beers in the world are now coming from this country...  shocking for those who grew up chugging the Beast and Buttwiper and you felt halfway cultured ordering a Stella or a Guinness...

Thirty years ago, British pub food was little more than crisps (potato chips) peanuts and sometimes there would be a jar of pickled onions or pickled eggs on the bar. These days it's much better, although pretty much the same from pub to pub. Since the cost of booze went through the roof and the smoking ban came in, pubs have to rely on food to draw customers in. Menu's consist typically of various burgers, a token steak (usually rib-eye) Hunters Chicken (overcooked chicken breast fillet covered in cheese and BBQ sauce) served with fries, Lasagne served with pile of leaves (or fries) and something dull for the veggies. A gastro pub menu may include chicken liver pate and food served on oversized or odd shaped plates. It's ok, but boring and to be frank I've had a better steak in a motorway service station in the middle of nowhere in Belgium. I'm not joking..

Anyway, what's this thread about? Oh yeah, prog masterpieces I don't like...VDGG (Lighthouse Keepers) Most tracks by Gentle Giant, Grendl by Marillion.

Close to the Edge, I've just never been able to get into it. Fragile and Drama are the Yes masterpieces in my mind.