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Points: 5111 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2018 at 03:53
^ It was better when they used to sell vegetables at gigs. People didn't have to resort to throwing glasses and bottles.
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Points: 9233 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2018 at 04:10
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

^ It was better when they used to sell vegetables at gigs. People didn't have to resort to throwing glasses and bottles.

What a (smart) market.

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Points: 3418 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 09:42
Phil was great but the band got better without him: In A Glass House, Power & The Glory, Free Hand - all better than anything with Phil (well, maybe not Octopus but certainly the first three.)
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Points: 680 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 10:41
I feel like the band got a little more technical after Phil left, almost as if they were compensating for only having 5 members instead of 6. In a good way, though, since they wrote a lot of interesting music without him. Fewer instruments, but each had a more complex part, basically. Perhaps they wanted to have more songs that they could adapt to the stage; a lot of Phil-era GG songs sound pretty impractical even for 6-piece to pull off. I think they only ever played 1 song off of Acquiring The Taste (Plan Truth), for example.
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Points: 9233 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 11:39
^I agree that the technicality increased post-Phil, but it was always there to begin with. I think they would have been more tech even with him remaining in the band, but I imagine there would be more literary references/themes. He was a teacher IIRC, and returned to it full-time upon leaving GG. Family time by that point for him!

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Points: 16187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 15:28
The album that is often considered to be GG's best is actually the first album without Phil and that is "In a glass house." Not sure if he was involved with the writing process on it though(like how Moraz was involved with GFTO).
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Points: 166178 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 17:25
They definitely became more rock forward once Phil left. I feel like Weathers taking over the drum stool had something to do with that too. 
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Points: 9233 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 10:46
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

They definitely became more rock forward once Phil left. I feel like Weathers taking over the drum stool had something to do with that too. 

I agree with this statement. There's a definite "upping of intensity" once Octopus - and Weathers - came around.

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