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kenethlevine
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Prog-Folk Team
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Location: New England
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Posted: December 05 2016 at 13:35 |
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HackettFan
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Joined: June 20 2012
Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: December 05 2016 at 16:26 |
Tough choices. I was close to voting for Soft Machine, but I just happened to have heard ELP's Christmas song on the radio today, so I veered toward ELP.
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A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now)
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zravkapt
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Joined: October 12 2010
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Posted: December 06 2016 at 05:51 |
^An Xmas song made you change your mind?
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Magma America Great Make Again
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Flight123
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Location: Sohar, Oman
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 02:37 |
Logan wrote:
Clearly ELPs music is still influencing bands and finding new fan, but it may not be as hip these days as, say, Can and Henry Cow (though I still suspect it has a wider audience than either of those).
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I became a fan of both ELP and Henry Cow when I was discovering prog in the mid-70s as a teenager. I was pretty much into both bands equally. I was unable to see ELP live until 1992 but fortunate enough to see the Cow twice in 77. Both bands get double respect as they both decided to throw in the towel roughly at the same time (although ELP did not announce their split until 79, they effectively split after Love Beach in 78). Although the Cow did not have the luxury of a contractual obligation album, having been finally ditched by Virgin in 77, they produced the last, great prog album with Western Culture. ELP's group side of Works I came before that but those 20 minutes compare more than favourably with what their other contemporaries were doing at the time. Admittedly, Cow fans were thin on the ground in the late 70s in the UK (although the venue was packed the first time I saw them, not so much the second time) but ELP fans were also under fire from the 'hip'.
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uduwudu
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 03:31 |
Magma snuck in ahead of Weather Report, Can, Henry Cow and ELP. Easily equal favourites.
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miamiscot
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Location: Ohio
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 08:41 |
Well, I like them all but ELP gets my vote.
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Logan
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Joined: April 05 2006
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 12:16 |
Flight123 wrote:
Logan wrote:
Clearly ELPs music is still influencing bands and finding new fans, but it may not be as hip these days as, say, Can and Henry Cow (though I still suspect it has a wider audience than either of those).
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I became a fan of both ELP and Henry Cow when I was discovering prog in the mid-70s as a teenager. I was pretty much into both bands equally. I was unable to see ELP live until 1992 but fortunate enough to see the Cow twice in 77. Both bands get double respect as they both decided to throw in the towel roughly at the same time (although ELP did not announce their split until 79, they effectively split after Love Beach in 78). Although the Cow did not have the luxury of a contractual obligation album, having been finally ditched by Virgin in 77, they produced the last, great prog album with Western Culture. ELP's group side of Works I came before that but those 20 minutes compare more than favourably with what their other contemporaries were doing at the time. Admittedly, Cow fans were thin on the ground in the late 70s in the UK (although the venue was packed the first time I saw them, not so much the second time) but ELP fans were also under fire from the 'hip'. | A very engaging post, thank you. :) I do wish that I could have seen both ELP and Henry Cow live. I have nothing really of value to add, so in the words of Led Zep I "ramble on." I was just a nipper in the 70s, so I missed out on the progressive music scene when it was big (even if say Henry Cow and ELP were pretty different scenes). The Cow has always been a pretty underground group, unlike ELP which was filling stadiums at the height of their popularity. I have heard "War" on university radio. The commercially successful, arena filling band that seemed to maintain its hip appeal while appealing to diverse audiences best is Pink Floyd. But then they were not tarnished, I think, nearly so much for being Prog (I distanced them from the Prog movement when I really got into Prog bands in the 80s). They had big shows, but didn't seem to have the same excesses, including bombast and show-offery as ELP.
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Joined: February 04 2016
Location: Aust
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 15:33 |
Soft MachineWeather ReportHenry Cow ELP
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 17:51 |
Henry Cow Henry Cow Henry Cow And also Henry Cow
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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micky
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Posted: December 08 2016 at 17:30 |
man that is tough... 3 beloved favs there... sorry Can.. you are #3.. sorry Magma.. oohhh Stella ... I know you wanted me.. both her and the group only make it to #2 in my heart.. #1.. yep... Carl Palmer's hair, Greg's tonsils, and Keith's hands...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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zravkapt
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Joined: October 12 2010
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Points: 6446
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Posted: March 21 2017 at 14:56 |
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Magma America Great Make Again
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DeadSouls
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Joined: February 28 2016
Location: Chile
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Posted: March 21 2017 at 14:59 |
DeadSouls wrote:
Soft MachineHenry Cow ELP Weather Report |
Henry Cow Soft Machine Weather Report
ELP
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2dogs
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Joined: December 03 2011
Location: England
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Posted: March 22 2017 at 01:35 |
I've gone for the complex compositions of the Cow.
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"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Posted: March 22 2017 at 02:45 |
ELP I guess. I'm not very up on Henry Cow or Magma but what I've heard sounds kind of awkward and difficult to process.. for me anyway. I think my tastes are rather conventional.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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presdoug
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Joined: January 24 2010
Location: Canada
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Posted: March 22 2017 at 04:23 |
It's a toss up between ELP, Soft Machine and Weather Report, and I have to go with ELP.
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Dopeydoc
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Location: France
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 15:58 |
progmatic wrote:
Manuel wrote:
ELP for sure, followed by Soft Machine and Magma right behind. |
This sums it up nicely for me.
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Larkstongue41
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Joined: July 07 2015
Location: Eastern Canada
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 16:13 |
Godspeed
Can Magma Henry Cow Soft Machine Weather Report ELP
the rest
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"Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar."
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Vompatti
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 17:23 |
Tool.
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PrognosticMind
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Joined: August 02 2014
Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: March 24 2017 at 02:46 |
Weather Report!
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"A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous. Got me?"
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socrates17
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Joined: January 12 2014
Location: NJ, USA
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Points: 436
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Posted: March 26 2017 at 21:27 |
Real tough choice between Henry Cow and Magma, essentially a tossup but I went for the Cow. Dealing with Soft Machine was a bit easier. SM w/Wyatt >>>> SM w/o Wyatt, which is most of their career so they lost points for inconsistency.
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