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    Posted: January 22 2017 at 15:43
"STEVE HACKETT ERA"
Only bands,albums,songs ...
Strictly Period = 1969_1979 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2017 at 18:03
Been a while since I've heard these, but I'm pretty sure they fit the bill. The Kyrie Eleison definitely should, anyway:

Atmosphera - Lady of Shalott
Kyrie Eleison - Fountain Beyond The Sunrise
Pollen - Pollen
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2017 at 20:38
I'll be paying attention to this thread because I'm specifically looking for stuff that sounds like Trespass but also interested in stuff that sounds like "wind" or "trick." I like the early moody folkier sound from the former and the lush keyboard driven sound from the last two with Hackett on it.  


The thing is though that Steve Hackett did not play with the band in 69 and didn't show up on a record until 71.  



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2017 at 20:45
The best example is Fruupp.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2017 at 21:21
Neuschwanstein's Battlement.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 06:45
Hi,

Acqua Fragile.

Some Spanish bands, should be listed here, but I think many of them were more inspired by YES, than they were by GENESIS. When it came to "emotion" and expression, PG and PC have absolutely nothing on many Spanish bands and singers!

Honestly, I would rather this thread went backwards and discuss the bands that ended up inspiring GENESIS into being theatrical and all that ... and that history in Europe goes all the way back to at least Bertold Brecht and Kurt Weill. And a lot of it was politically inspired, which you can see how PG twisted that thought into not being so openly political! ... selling england by the pound ... ohh yeah!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 07:03
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I'll be paying attention to this thread because I'm specifically looking for stuff that sounds like Trespass but also interested in stuff that sounds like "wind" or "trick." I like the early moody folkier sound from the former and the lush keyboard driven sound from the last two with Hackett on it.  


The thing is though that Steve Hackett did not play with the band in 69 and didn't show up on a record until 71.  


I don't know ... in going back to listening to a lot of Anthony Phillips, and specially his first 5 or 6 albums, I find that the ideas for what GENESIS ended up doing, were already on the plate and had been checked out. I think that Steve Hackett, simply made them more rock oriented than Anthony, who was more folk oriented, if I may use that term strictly as a comparative idea.

I know that it is a bit of a stretch, but I find that I can hear a lot of Robert Fripp in Steve Hackett, in terms of the way that the guitar is used and developed within a piece of music. And in many ways, that is Steve's strength and ability for me, and it added something to GENESIS that separated it from the plain rock band to a great rock band. England was, and still is, full of those "folk/rock" bands with and without keyboards!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 09:04
Hello everybody
First of all
English is not my  tongue
I answer my way.
Aphillips era is valid
Strictly = No pop / no neo-prog
Something bands are proto-neo-prog = are valid
Strict = is filter , is sieve , is to limit
80s,90s,00 =
excessive bands ,clone band , tributes
70s band = not
Contaminated = naive & celestial sound
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 09:10
Well, I respect your right to set parameters for this thread but in my opinion the full impact of Genesis' influence did not happen until later. You can hear it in the neo prog bands of the eighties like IQ and Marillion and later bands.

The only one I can think of that hasn't been mentioned yet is the band nightwinds who put out one album(self titled)in 1979. They were clearly influenced by mid seventies Genesis. It's a pretty good album over all but unfortunately it's been out of print for a long time and will probably stay that way since apparently the tapes have been lost. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 09:23
Always thought that Rush's Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres was a bit of a Genesis knock-off.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 10:40
A FLOWER KING CRIMSON
you know / you listen / you heard
this bands............

M.L. Bongers Project  (Germany):
1978 "st album"
Sirius (Germany):
1982Running to Paradise
1984 Three Bushes
Ivory (Germany):
1979 Sad Cypress
1996 Keen City
Babylon (USA)
1978 "st"
Mangrove (Netherlands)

MODERN GENESIS BANDS:
Plackband
The Watch
Puppet Show
Iluvatar
 Magenta
RAEL
CHANETON
Hamadryad
Citizen Cain
Submarine Silence
Kino
Winterstrain
Yngve Guddal
Clepsydra
Jadis
Mangala Vallis

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 10:51
NIGHTWINDS (INFO? //COUNTRY?)
1979 "ST"
There are not old LP (second_hand) or CD REISSUES....?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 13:31
Campo di Marte 1973 "st" = Maybe_similar = Genesis Trespass Album
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 13:33
An obvious one for a french man: Ange
For example: Sur la trace des fées Thumbs Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m16QDBiT3Go

And check PA for more

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 13:51
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:


Honestly, I would rather this thread went backwards and discuss the bands that ended up inspiring GENESIS into being theatrical and all that ...


we've discussed that to death in the years past... easy as 1, 2, 3

1)

yawn... so boring even their own people were telling them they were.. f**kING BORING!!!

so they meet this group supporting them on a tour in Italy

2)

you want theatrical...  excitement....Genesis learned it from the masters...

and what did you get after that tour. Well they didn't have the chops or the music to excite.. but...

3)


still boring as sh*t.. but it was at least theatrical.. and you didn't have the audiences drooling upoon themselves or falling asleep in their seats at they did in the early days! Thumbs UpLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 14:25
Originally posted by Gulliver Gulliver wrote:

NIGHTWINDS (INFO? //COUNTRY?)
1979 "ST"
There are not old LP (second_hand) or CD REISSUES....?


They are from Canada and only put out the one album(from 1979 like you said). You can probably find it on the site discogs. Maybe allmusic too. Anyway, like I said the album is out of print but you may be able to find it somewhere(it won't be cheap though).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 14:27
Not sure what Italian band that is. Osanna maybe? I heard that one of the members wore a wolf mask or something and that inspired PG to do something similar. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 14:43
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Not sure what Italian band that is. Osanna maybe? I heard that one of the members wore a wolf mask or something and that inspired PG to do something similar. 


Osanna it was. Thumbs Up and it was painted faces, like the picture.  It is.. oh hell let Raff explain it. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 17:47
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Neuschwanstein's Battlement.


Fantastic band, you can download the whole album from YouTube!!... Their other album is good too!..


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