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    Posted: January 31 2017 at 19:56
Brand new to the site, and wondering about something. I bought a used CD today called England by England, thinking it was the same guys who did Garden Shed. Doesn't seem to be...but I bought it anyway as it showed up as "Prog", possibly in Wikipedia. Strange that there would be two bands with the same name around the same time; strange too that the band featured on the CD I bought today does not appear in the Prog Archives...seems more like a hoax. Anybody 'shed' any light on this? 

P.S. Haven't had a chance to listen yet.
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There are many bands that are not in the archives, often because they are simply too obscure. Another reason can be that a band was rejected to be added because it was not deemed to be "prog".


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2017 at 20:07
Some more info please--  images, release date, band members, anything

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2017 at 20:45
Audio Archives CD; AACD 011. 1995
Musicians: Ben Eggleston, Olly Alcock, Phil Cook
All songs arranged and produced by England December 1976 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2017 at 21:04
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

There are many bands that are not in the archives, often because they are simply too obscure. Another reason can be that a band was rejected to be added because it was not deemed to be "prog".

Unlike Tori Amos who we all know screams prog. Confused
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They were discussed back in '09 and evidently not determined to be, or voted as, prog --
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61103

Listening now to the album on youtube, [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6ADPDT85mM ], they are near-prog but in my opinion not quite there.   That's not to say they weren't progressive for the time; on the other hand you couldn't swing a dead hedgehog in '76 without hitting a heavy progrock band and in that context they are only mildly progressive.   Very good lesser band though.   Maybe they'll get a re-vote, you never know.




Edited by Atavachron - January 31 2017 at 22:13
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Shame you didn't buy the original album!

Here is the complete Mega Rare 1976 Private Pressing on the Deroy Label by UK Prog Rock Band `England` the originals are now selling upward of 2000 British Pounds, Reportedly only 99 pressed and many sent to Major record labels (and we know what they do with unsolicited material)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2017 at 12:31
Yes, now that I am listening to it, I can see that it is more Wishbone Ash than prog. A great album, though, for a WA fan like me! Nice sound on the CD too.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2017 at 13:33
Great introduction to the site, Roga. A very interesting thread


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Just as long as it wasn't New England!
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