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    Posted: February 17 2017 at 16:22
Easily their debut, really don't like Danger Money, but I'll probably give it another listen down the road again to see if I changed my mind at all
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2017 at 09:52
I love them both equally!!! Totally different but they both blow me away. Even now.

If I had to pick I would have to go with the debut. Bruford is just so good!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2017 at 04:30
I have loved Danger Money since it was released,so the choice is obvious for me. Being a big ELP fan at the time,and being appalled by Love Beach,I thought Danger Money was precisely the album that ELP should have made at that point. UK became the new ELP for me,sad it only lasted one album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2017 at 18:25
^ Concert Classics vol.4, though not as good-sounding, is a more dynamic performance than Night After Night ~

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2017 at 16:48
Night After Night. Big smile

I've always preferred the trio to the original lineup for a couple of reasons. First album is stellar, but I think it's a bit of a compromise trying to do a sort of crossover prog along with fusion influences. I really love the solo Bruford stuff and thought that was a great companion to the more commercial-leaning UK stuff. Also, I just have a thing for trios. I used to be a huge Bozzio fan, but less so in more recent years. He's much more into his solo drum performances these days than group efforts, and it showed when I saw the UK reunion in Chicago a few years ago. Bruford and Bonham are probably my two favorite drummers.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2017 at 03:09
No contest for me. Hands down it is the first album, with Allan Holdsworth on guitar. Jobson's acrobatics and shredding on the electric violin on both albums is magnificent, but the second album is missing the marvelous Holdsworth guitar sounds. Of course, Wetton is an anchor as lead vocalist and bassist on both albums - quite amazing really. Finally, regarding Bruford or Bozzio on drums, that is a toss-up as both of them are stupendous beyond words...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2017 at 12:43
Tough choice......went with the first because In The Dead of Night is still my fave track by them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2017 at 07:47
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I prefer the second album taste-wise although I think the debut is a stronger album overall. Both are pretty great. Such a shame that Wetton and Jobson fell out and we only got the 2 albums.


The falling out was sickening. There is the recent remaster package which includes a full version of the live album Night After Night, remastered boots and the reunion album, as well as various extras. Really, the crowning glory is the remastered Danger Money as it sounds as good as my old Polydor Deluxe vinyl. When Will You Realise is on the DM extras disc. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2017 at 06:01
Debut - Leaning heavily towards a 'Fusion' style which was more of a contemporary prog approach for the time.
Danger Money - Leaning heavily towards ELP influenced keyboard driven prog as ELP had given up by this time and there was a large space to fill (UK did actually admit this!).
 
I prefer the second album taste-wise although I think the debut is a stronger album overall. Both are pretty great. Such a shame that Wetton and Jobson fell out and we only got the 2 albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2017 at 14:57
I prefer UK (as a Bill Bruford fan Wink). But Danger money is very close...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2017 at 10:37
U.K. and Danger Money are such different animals, it's kind of like comparing Tangerine Dream's Stratosfear to Force Majeure. Both are distinct works that scratch different itches and it's perfectly acceptable to like both equally for their own merits.
 
That said, I do prefer Danger Money because I'm a nut for the keyboard-led prog power trio format. They lost two guys, got another drummer, and sort of went "Yo! ELP! Two can play that game!" And then they recorded one of my favorite albums. It's got balls to spare. Just like ELP consisted of three of the best guys you could collect in that format, so was U.K. Mk. II.
 
As for the comment that Wetton's a mediocre bass player...Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2017 at 09:09
UK by a favorable margin. Kudos though to Carrying No Cross.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2017 at 06:55
two different line-ups both equal but lyrically goes to danger money !

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2017 at 04:34
Danger Money, no contest - one of the best albums ever made.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2017 at 02:07
I like the debut, but Danger Money has never failed as a favourite for 36 years.

Favourite songs: Carrying no Cross*, The Only Thing She Needs and Rendezvous 6:02.

*Apologies for eventual sacrilege, but I think Starless was a forestudy for this one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2017 at 01:51
I don't dig Danger Money, so for me it's their debut that stands out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2017 at 01:30
Danger Money (to me) is one of the worst albums ever made.

The debut album has this great fusion interplay, great drumming, great guitar, violin and synthwork. Good songwriting.

Danger Money had only Rendez Vous 6.02 wich was kind of okay. The rest of the album is so over the top, it hurts my ears. I am not a fan of Wetton's voice and not a fan of his bassplaying (wich is just mediocre) and not a fan of Terry Bozzio.

Terry is the kind of drummer I kind stand to listen to. He has a total lack of groove, dynamics and feel. It's just pompous thrashmetal drumming. And Wetton can't play a nice bassline. It's a just low register simple riffing.

The only thing about Danger Money that's okayish is Eddie Jobson, wich electric violin sounds like a heavy metalguitar sometimes. But his Green Album is much, much better.

The debut was great because of Bruford and Holdsworth. I was wondering how great UK would sound without Wetton's voice and with better bassplaying (maybe Chris Squire)...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2017 at 01:15
UK: UK was my first introduction to Alan Holdsworth of whom I can never get enough.

So I prefer UK:UK.  Especially 'Nevermore'.  That back and forth soloing at the end is sublime!
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