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Posted: March 24 2020 at 09:23
rogerthat wrote:
SteveG wrote:
The gloves were off in the last debate as Sanders hit Biden on all his past choices in the Senate like his vote for the Iraq War and his support of cutting Social Security. If that wasn't enough to floor Biden, then he's got nothing left to fight with.
It was too late by then. Two rounds of primaries had already gone hugely in favour of Biden by then. He had way too much momentum by that point. He should have been attacking Biden long before that. See, this is why Trump wins, as much as we hate him. He didn't bother about poll testers telling him a negative message wouldn't play well, he didn't pull his punches. And while there was certainly no need for Sanders to resort to Trump-like cheap personal attacks, I really felt even substantively he was too soft on Biden who used to tag team with the other moderates in attacking him for being 'a socialist'. All under the pretext that the GOP would be calling him that so we needed to see now if socialist carried negative baggage. This is not the first time either. Sanders refused to discuss the email issue in the 2016 Hillary and then in the general, you wouldn't hear the end of it from the GOP.
That would have been 20/20 hindsight. Sanders was in the lead in all polls and Biden was floundering before pulling his primary upsets.
By then it was too late.
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Posted: March 25 2020 at 22:18
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Posted: March 26 2020 at 19:18
So everybody is waiting for their government bail out check. Looks like the republicans are okay with socialism after all.
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Posted: March 27 2020 at 10:58
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So everybody is waiting for their government bail out check. Looks like the republicans are okay with socialism after all.
I'm sure it was like drinking a whole bottle of castor oil for them. Funny, they've never had a problem with corporate socialism. But you don't bite the hand that feeds you, I suppose.
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Posted: April 01 2020 at 11:51
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Posted: April 02 2020 at 10:01
The stock market soared today due to an impending end to Saudi-Russia oil supply war. But the US reported job loses of more than 6 million yesterday. 6 Million! How does that happen? Doesn't one effect the other?
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Posted: April 03 2020 at 00:22
A beautiful explanation of what went down with black voters in the South. Finally Hill actually asked a black man to explain and so he did. It's a pretty cynical explanation and somewhat captures the worldview of someone like Clarence Thomas.
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Posted: April 03 2020 at 08:28
What difference does it make who the Dem is at this stage...? African Americans shouldn't vote for Drumpf...,any Dem will be a much better friend....,no Republicans (in the modern history of the US) have ever done anything meaningful for minorities , etc.
Edited by dr wu23 - April 03 2020 at 08:29
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Posted: April 03 2020 at 09:13
dr wu23 wrote:
What difference does it make who the Dem is at this stage...? African Americans shouldn't vote for Drumpf...,any Dem will be a much better friend....,no Republicans (in the modern history of the US) have ever done anything meaningful for minorities , etc.
That isn't the point. The point he lays down really well in the analysis is why the Southern black vote will pretty much never turn out for a progressive. Or at least not until enough older voters pass away.
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Posted: April 03 2020 at 14:33
rogerthat wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
What difference does it make who the Dem is at this stage...? African Americans shouldn't vote for Drumpf...,any Dem will be a much better friend....,no Republicans (in the modern history of the US) have ever done anything meaningful for minorities , etc.
That isn't the point. The point he lays down really well in the analysis is why the Southern black vote will pretty much never turn out for a progressive. Or at least not until enough older voters pass away.
So ..then someone important (or multiple someones...) in the African American arena had better stand up on a soap box and explain to the African American community how things really are and that they better get out and vote....just like all the rest of us, if they don't want that poor excuse for a human being to get elected again.
It's that simple.
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Posted: April 03 2020 at 15:39
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
I really hope no African American person has to read that post.
Thank you. If someone doesn't know much about a certain group of people, they really shouldn't be telling them how they should think or vote. Any group is far more diverse and complicated than any outsider could understand well enough to be dictating how they should feel about someone or how they should vote.
Edited by Easy Money - April 03 2020 at 17:53
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Posted: April 03 2020 at 19:34
dr wu23 wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
What difference does it make who the Dem is at this stage...? African Americans shouldn't vote for Drumpf...,any Dem will be a much better friend....,no Republicans (in the modern history of the US) have ever done anything meaningful for minorities , etc.
That isn't the point. The point he lays down really well in the analysis is why the Southern black vote will pretty much never turn out for a progressive. Or at least not until enough older voters pass away.
So ..then someone important (or multiple someones...) in the African American arena had better stand up on a soap box and explain to the African American community how things really are and that they better get out and vote....just like all the rest of us, if they don't want that poor excuse for a human being to get elected again.
It's that simple.
Trust me, they know Trump better than a white man ever will. Don't worry about the African American vote, worry about convincing people to vote for a guy who can't put a sentence together on television in spite of getting extremely sympathetic press.
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Posted: April 03 2020 at 20:12
SteveG wrote:
The stock market soared today due to an impending end to Saudi-Russia oil supply war. But the US reported job loses of more than 6 million yesterday. 6 Million! How does that happen? Doesn't one effect the other?
ummm..
#notdyingforwallstreet
#2 perhaps Steve in the changes we may well see in a post Convid America.. #1 obviously being what most suspected.. the unlikely few (like me as I've talked about with my direct experiences) know.. but a great many will learn.. is just how f**ked up and misdirected our whole health care system is. That.. book it.. will change.. if not immediately.. then provide gale force winds to the movement already well advanced to reform if not outright redo our 'for profit' health care system. Just wait till the stories come out about the bills people will be getting for their weeks of intensiveConvid treatments.. (trust me.. I know what ER.. Intenisve Care costs and what that bill looks like)
but back on point.. #2.. the now too obvious to be ignored disconnect between Wall Street and Main Street. Sure the enlightened knew it.. again.. after this.. all will know it.
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