Music as Art

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As I said, we can't even agree on what music is, let alone decide whether it is art or not, and the same is true of every art-form. If we impose boundaries on what we regard art to be then those boundaries are defined by our prejudices not our preferences, so commenting on what is and is not art speaks more about our prejudices (and, it has to be said, our education) than it does about the art we are purporting to comment upon. Once we start discussing the worth and value of art as being two sides of two different coins then all subjective judgements we make become trivial and without merit - what separates art from craft is not commercialism but merely perception of value over worth - and we reflect this in the language we use when discussing art and this especially true in music where all recorded works are set with same stickered ticket-price regardless of their actual value to us, and that's the difference between being priceless and worthless.

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Dean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575	Posted: March 20 2017 at 11:51
	As I said, we can't even agree on what music is, let alone decide whether it is art or not, and the same is true of every art-form. If we impose boundaries on what we regard art to be then those boundaries are defined by our prejudices not our preferences, so commenting on what is and is not art speaks more about our prejudices (and, it has to be said, our education) than it does about the art we are purporting to comment upon. Once we start discussing the worth and value of art as being two sides of two different coins then all subjective judgements we make become trivial and without merit - what separates art from craft is not commercialism but merely perception of value over worth - and we reflect this in the language we use when discussing art and this especially true in music where all recorded works are set with same stickered ticket-price regardless of their actual value to us, and that's the difference between being priceless and worthless.
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uduwudu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: July 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2601	Posted: March 22 2017 at 02:41
	Punk regarded prog as pretentious. What a nerve. With prog you got great ideas, brilliant musicianship and a way of elevating rock and pop into a sophisticated level rivaling classical music so much John Williams responded with his band Sky. Boundaries were blurred and glories achieved. It's not for nothing that the 1970s are tinged with this "golden era" ideal. Punk had basic rock and roll (only often way more horrendous) before that turned into new wave and new art rock. You can't stop intent to express no matter how much you try Johnny. I really didn't like punk trying to make the dunce of the class into king of the world. All they did was create pop and social cultural fear, truly back in the USSR. Open minds versus knuckle heads any day. Having said that there is much laughter to be had from the more fanatical and narrow minded in the extreme noise maker categories. Which is not all punks. I remember turning up at a punk thrash years ago. They wondered what someone like me (long haired type) was doing there (curiosity) and were actually very nice. Set me an example as I am not being a pretentious prog snob. ;)

Upbeat Tango Monday Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 10 2015 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 1189	Posted: March 30 2017 at 07:46
	Music is art. It has nothing to do with the origin of the band, the number of albums sold or the genre. If humanity ends and some aliens come down to earth and find a Britney Spears record inside a vault, they will listen to it and decide that's art right away. Of course, Prog rock used to sell like crazy in the 70's. It was pretty mainstream and some bands jumped right into it...and then they went pop in the 80's. So, back in the 70s prog wasn't art because it was mainstream? Hell no. If more people can live their lives by making music, the better for us music fans =) Even countries like North Korea where there's almost no music (since normal folks have no instruments and no means of listening to it; music is just burgoise leisure, and trade is forbidden) have kids who play the guitar as instructed by the authority and only in official celebrations. Even that manufactured thing born out of fear is art, art inside a country were music wouldn't exist otherwise. So yeah. Music is an art form, always.
	Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.

Swandezvous Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: March 30 2017 Location: Oregon Status: Offline Points: 8	Posted: March 31 2017 at 13:56
	Art is a word, and a word drives it's value from what it communicates. Music communicates, and fulfills the same property as a word. All of them require context, and that is an ancient tradition.

Roman3560 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: April 03 2017 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 1	Posted: April 03 2017 at 01:22
	Hello guys, just want to share with you my new project where I'm mostly streaming Blues Rock songs. I will be happy if any of you find it interesting. Here is the link on TuneIn: tunein. com/radio/Mens-Music-s277846/ Thank You! And sorry if it looks like spam, but it's not, just want to create some value here.

Thatfabulousalien Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 27 2016 Location: Aussie/NZ Status: Offline Points: 1409	Posted: April 03 2017 at 01:28
	ART AS MUSIC
	Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV. https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325