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Originally posted by Bigbobby10 Bigbobby10 wrote:

What do you think the most overrated or overhyped album is to you.

For me it will always be Wish you were here, I never really got why it is considered one of the best in prog rock, I don't think it is even the best by Pink Floyd. Other than Shine on You Cray Diamond, the albums seems very bland to me.
Just because you think it's bland doesn't mean it's overrated or overhyped.
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Overrated = "Rated too highly". By whom then? The fans? If people like the music, then it's probably got merit.
Overhyped = "Hyped for more than it's worth". I suppose this happens sometimes, but it's usually the band or the record company doing it. Ergo.... we don't need to worry, the rating given by fans (on this site and elsewhere) will sort it out.
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Originally posted by Bigbobby10 Bigbobby10 wrote:

Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Most of the Prog Metal stuff is quite difficult for me to digest. Too much repetition, solos are quite similar, and I can't see much inventiveness in the genre. Of course it's a very personal opinion, but no matter how much I've tried, I cannot get into the genre, and find all the classic metal albums that are compared to the classics of Progressive Rock, are simply not even close. 


that my my thoughts, I have tried but can't get into prog metal, the whole genre is just eh for me.
No can do, either. I guess it's an acquired taste.
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The Beatles - Please please me

Completely boring, sh*tty album. Barely many time signature or dynamic changes and the songs are so short. So overrated.  
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The review pages can be very helpful in finding out what it is that appeals to the people rating an album very highly. Listening to it with these points in mind might help you enjoy it more, as I have found with 1980s Tangerine Dream. Or you may just discover why you don't like it - there are a few negative reviews for Wish You Were Here - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1441
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Originally posted by Thatfabulousalien Thatfabulousalien wrote:

The Beatles - Please please me

Completely boring, sh*tty album. Barely many time signature or dynamic changes and the songs are so short. So overrated.  


Not there to remember it when it came out in 1963? It was pop.....it was entirely new. I was there, I remember it, and it was revolutionary pop. It wasn't meant to have time signature/dynamic changes....that came much later.
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Originally posted by Thatfabulousalien Thatfabulousalien wrote:

The Beatles - Please please me

Completely boring, sh*tty album. Barely many time signature or dynamic changes and the songs are so short. So overrated.  

Well everyone knows my deep love Dead of the Fab Four. There are many of their songs that are overrated, but to me more overhyped than anything, it is sickening at how over analyzed they have become. Talented songwriters I probably can live with, but everything else is overblown pompous google-eyed "they are god!" LOL nonsense. 
Their singing is horrid, and their musicianship is average, nobody says "I want play guitar, bass or drums...like the Beatles".

Yes I am a proud member of the 0.00000000000000000000000000000000001% population that feels this way about your beloved Beatles.
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There are only two musical eras: BB=Before the Beatles and AB=After the Beatles. Wink 
 
Back to the question. Anything that's termed Prog Punk is overrated. Pinch
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

There are only two musical eras: BB=Before the Beatles and AB=After the Beatles. Wink 
 
Back to the question. Anything that's termed Prog Punk is overrated. Pinch

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Thatfabulousalien Thatfabulousalien wrote:

The Beatles - Please please me

Completely boring, sh*tty album. Barely many time signature or dynamic changes and the songs are so short. So overrated.  

Well everyone knows my deep love Dead of the Fab Four. There are many of their songs that are overrated, but to me more overhyped than anything, it is sickening at how over analyzed they have become. Talented songwriters I probably can live with, but everything else is overblown pompous google-eyed "they are god!" LOL nonsense. 
Their singing is horrid, and their musicianship is average, nobody says "I want play guitar, bass or drums...like the Beatles".

Yes I am a proud member of the 0.00000000000000000000000000000000001% population that feels this way about your beloved Beatles.
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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Thatfabulousalien Thatfabulousalien wrote:

The Beatles - Please please me

Completely boring, sh*tty album. Barely many time signature or dynamic changes and the songs are so short. So overrated.  

Well everyone knows my deep love Dead of the Fab Four. There are many of their songs that are overrated, but to me more overhyped than anything, it is sickening at how over analyzed they have become. Talented songwriters I probably can live with, but everything else is overblown pompous google-eyed "they are god!" LOL nonsense. 
Their singing is horrid, and their musicianship is average, nobody says "I want play guitar, bass or drums...like the Beatles".

Yes I am a proud member of the 0.00000000000000000000000000000000001% population that feels this way about your beloved Beatles.
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Okay, I got the rope. Whose got the pitchforks and flaming torches?

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Over rated for me is when an album is praised mostly because nobody understand what's going on in it. Making music complex for the sake of it sucks. For my taste and understanding albums like King Crimson's Red or Lark's Tongues in Aspic fall in that category. 
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So you don't like those albums(?).
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Originally posted by fredyair fredyair wrote:

Over rated for me is when an album is praised mostly because nobody understand what's going on in it. Making music complex for the sake of it sucks. For my taste and understanding albums like King Crimson's Red or Lark's Tongues in Aspic fall in that category. 

Larks I can understand (although I certainly don't agree at all) but Red is literally their most straightforward and stripped down album. There's nothing obfuscating about it at all, excepting perhaps the improvisation of Providence (which is still pretty accessible compared to most free improv). 
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Originally posted by fredyair fredyair wrote:

Over rated for me is when an album is praised mostly because nobody understand what's going on in it. Making music complex for the sake of it sucks. For my taste and understanding albums like King Crimson's Red or Lark's Tongues in Aspic fall in that category. 

Why? I mean you're not the first person I've heard here that has said that or something to that effect. I just don't understand why. Is this some kind of reverse snobbery/elitism? Of all people, prog fans are supposed to like complexity, right?

And please don't say it's because it's self indulgent. All music, and all art really, is self indulgent. 


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Originally posted by Thatfabulousalien Thatfabulousalien wrote:

The Beatles - Please please me

Completely boring, sh*tty album. Barely many time signature or dynamic changes and the songs are so short. So overrated.  

Maybe you are right (Please Please me is definitly  the record I love less of the Beatles' discography), but the importance of that album is that (I guess) for the first time a record contained more original material than covers, most of the song were not previously released as singles (LPs were not relevant in a band's career in the early 60s, singles were) and the hit singles (please please me and love me do) were not covers but original recordings. This is the first change the fab four brought in the music industry .


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i actually know quite a few musicians that wanted to play drums like Ringo- because he played FOR the song, and what the song needed.
I also know many people that consider John Lennon to be one of the greatest Rhythm guitarists of all time.
Lets not even start with George Harrison whose slide playing was emulated and delicate phrases appreciated by many fellow musicians and rock critics.
 
Musicianship is not all about who can shred the fastest or bang on the drums with the most paradiddles in succession. It is about what is right for the song. This is something the beatles did to perfection.
 
 
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