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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2017 at 19:12
Can, but I do understand all the love for PFM and I have a lot of respect for them. It's just not really for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2017 at 19:47
Can but close.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2017 at 03:15
Can for me. The incredible Vernal Equniox...

But then we are not comparing apples to oranges...

Can V Kraftwerk e.g. btw (Can win this one as well...)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2017 at 10:34
Can for me, but I do love Storia di un Minuto very much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2017 at 11:14
Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Easy one: PFM by a mile. Can is boring to these ears...

Sorry for Can fans, but I have to agree.
            
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2017 at 11:39
You PFM guys don't get it, clearly you need to increase the use of Q-tips.......Can rules the planet its pretty easy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2017 at 12:40
La Premiata for me. I like Can too, just not as much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2017 at 12:44
Never could understand Can
            
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2017 at 12:58
It's about the groove for me.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2017 at 17:09
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

It's about the groove for me.


That's it!! Clap They live in the "groove" man, gotta dig deep to understand the Can......its not music, its Can! Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2017 at 19:11
A dude who enjoy Tago Mago and dislike Zappa...bizarre, man.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2017 at 05:34
PFM slightly over Can
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2017 at 12:40
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

It's about the groove for me.


That's it!! Clap They live in the "groove" man, gotta dig deep to understand the Can......its not music, its Can!


I was once asked why I liked to fish, and said it's all about that bass. Seriously, unlike Ivan, I don't think you need to "understand" a band like Can, you just need to feel it to dig it (psychotropic drugs can help, though I would not promote their use and avoid such stuff myself).   It's not intellectual music, which is not to say tha it is completly disengaged from the intellect of course. Like quite a bit of Krautrock and psychedelic music, it has hypnotic qualities when you can feel the groove. I'd like to go a little farther though than just feeling the groove to say, don't just feel it and don't just dream it, be it. Its the kind of music where the experience can be enhanced when at a swinging party of freaks grooving to it -- especially if there are strobe lights and the room is filled with a heady mix of noxious vapours.

But Ivan, if you can't dig it, you can't feel it, you can't dream it, and you can't be it, that's fine. I think people are often overanalyzing music when they say that they can't understand it.

As for Zappa and Can, I generally only really like Zappa when he's instrumental. I love this:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2017 at 13:13
"Stati di immaginazione", 2006 is another brilliant album by the Italian masters PFM, despite been instrumental equals in their first two from 1972 in musicality. It´s poetry. Their performance in PROG EXHIBITION, 2010 is very convincing.
"Cyber Alpha" is a sheer showcase of force of Franco Mussida´s virtuosity as an instrumentalist. All master musicians. Period.
You may see a smile on Tony Banks´ face but that´s unlikely.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2017 at 13:30
Sorry for the negativity -- it's just my impression and we're all different, of course, but...

I picked up Stati di immaginazione in 2006, as I was very into PFM back then, and it didn't appeal to me. Have tried subsequently and it still didn't appeal to me. To each his or her own tastes of course, but there's nothing there that I would consider brilliant that I can recall. There is some pleasant acoustic guitar work (not up to Segovia), but that's about all that I liked from it. People were really lauding the album at the time and it was certainly one of my biggest musical disappointments (I've only very rarely been disappointed with albums). I picked up another Italian album at about the same time, Yugen's Labirinto d'acqua, also from 2006, and found it so much more satisfying. EDIT: hadn't played that Yugen album in about nine years, and I can't stand it now -- tastes change. I still don't like Stati, though. ;)

Edited by Logan - March 29 2017 at 15:12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2017 at 20:03
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

PFM...........never understood all the love for Can ;imho a hugely 'overrated' band.
Oh please...

Now Can and Mike Oldfield are overrated. What bands do you like? Don't tell me Genesis, Pink Floyd and Yes for heaven's sake.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2017 at 12:13
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2018 at 12:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2018 at 16:13
Can just edge ít over PFM
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