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I can't believe that Union had no less than 13 keyboard players contributing (including Wakeman himself). As if Rick couldn't do it all himself...........
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This whole thing is sounding like the "who's on first" comedy skit....sheesh!


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Who plays bass for ARW?
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:


By all accounts ARW is a much better band than the other Yes, maybe they'll join up and do "Union 2".


They already had their reunion at the Hall of Fame, and what I have read is that they didn't end up very happy and don't plan to work together again. So, if the Hall of Fame didn't do the trick, I don't expect it to happen again. Still, I so much would love to be able to hear Anderson, Wakeman and Howe together again.
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Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:


By all accounts ARW is a much better band than the other Yes, maybe they'll join up and do "Union 2".


Watch you tube concerts--rabin butchers genius Howe's parts on most songs---and the rearrangement of an amazing song like Awaken is just horrible---although Jon Rick and rhythm section is first rate compared to Howes Yes--- I will probably pass on both versions---a curse on both your housesLOL

The band of peace an love should practice what they preach.Angry


I did listen to Awaken on Youtube, and as you say, I felt Rabin butchered the guitar parts. He is suposed to be trying to play things as he would have recorded them originally, on his own style or whatever, instead of trying to replicate Howe's playing. Either way, Howe is much better. Still, if I get the chance to see either version of Yes live, I would choose ARW. Perhaps Rabin will get lured into his film scores again, and needing a new guitar player, if Anderson and Wakeman still can't resolve their problems with Howe, they I think they should try and get to work with Colin Tench. And if the other Yes were to part ways with Downes, then they should get the guy from Iamthemorning.
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Maybe the guys in CIRCA: (past and present) can help them out. Thumbs Up
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So many days of being together all the time with the same crew and oportunities to know everything about each other, including what gets on the nerves... How could we expect better situations?

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Apparently Anderson has an equal share to the name but can't use the Dean logo. Guess with Chris dead he saw no need to continue the gentlemen's agreement.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2017 at 20:20
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Maybe the guys in CIRCA: (past and present) can help them out.†Thumbs Up


Wasn't the drummer that's worked on CIRCA the one that helped Yes out while Alan was unavailable last year? In any case, if they were to get a drummer from a related band, I wish they had gotten the help of Carl Palmer.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Maybe the guys in CIRCA: (past and present) can help them out. Thumbs Up
 

Wasn't the drummer that's worked on CIRCA the one that helped Yes out while Alan was unavailable last year? In any case, if they were to get a drummer from a related band, I wish they had gotten the help of Carl Palmer.
Practically every member of CIRCA: has been in Yes at some time, that was the point of the joke.

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Yes should change their name to 'The Prog Collective' - I'm certain Billy wouldn't mind
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Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Who plays bass for ARW?


Lee Pomeroy, excellent bassist, apparenlty one of the most demanded today (along with Nick Beggs). What I know, he played with Wakeman on number of albums and with ELO. I saw him also with reformed It Bites with John Mitchell.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grantman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2017 at 08:08
instead of who,s better lets assume all the roads yes take is one at least i think that what jon believes.
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Originally posted by stewe stewe wrote:

Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Who plays bass for ARW?


Lee Pomeroy, excellent bassist, apparenlty one of the most demanded today (along with Nick Beggs). What I know, he played with Wakeman on number of albums and with ELO. I saw him also with reformed It Bites with John Mitchell.
I think he played on Steve Hackett's Genesis Revisited stuff as well.  Any thoughts as to his comparison to Squire vs. Billy Sherwood?
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Random thought - Squire was Nick Beggs' idol - even before he formed Art Nouveau / Kajagoogoo.
I doubt Beggs would ever step into the shoes of his idol. Haven't heard much from Pomeroy.....
Sherwood fills Squire's shoes in a roundabout (no pun intended) sort of way.
I know Beggs played bass at times for the Genesis revisited stuff - Rutherford's bass isn't exactly easy to play !!
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Actually, there are live versions available where Howe makes the song his own - by adding an extensive solo to the end of it.  The song structure itself is quite basic, which is why Howe does not like playing it.  I visibly saw him sigh as he went through it during the Union tour.
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And yes, this is getting old.  Both versions of the band are doing little more than rehashing what they had already done.  This is why I got tired of seeing Yes 20 years ago.
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I only saw them once, back in 2003, and I'd happily go to see them again !! I don't mind Davison and Sherwood, sure miss Squire though -he was the main reason I fell in love with Yes music in the first place.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Random thought - Squire was Nick Beggs' idol - even before he formed Art Nouveau / Kajagoogoo.
I doubt Beggs would ever step into the shoes of his idol. Haven't heard much from Pomeroy.....
Sherwood fills Squire's shoes in a roundabout (no pun intended) sort of way.
I know Beggs played bass at times for the Genesis revisited stuff - Rutherford's bass isn't exactly easy to play !!


After hearing "The Raven that Refused to Sing", and specially the opening song, I can't help but wish it had been Nick Beggs who replaced Squire. And then, Yes should have kept Oliver as the keyboard player, I believe he was doing a much better job than Downes (I did see them both live).
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^ Oh yes, Luminol. Beggs is just BRILLIANT !! And indeed, Oliver is getting up there with his Father.
I like Downes playing, but he's probably the 'lesser' of all the Yes keyboardists.
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