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    Posted: February 27 2018 at 08:46
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Return To Forever easily.
 
If Brand X was included, the choice would be more difficult.
 
Mahavishnu slightly behind.
 
Weather Report was good, but far too conventional for my tastes.

I am just of the opposite opinion; Weather Report were the most unconventional of the three when it comes to jazz-rock/fusion. just think of an album like "Black Market" (my favorite one of them)

I giggled when I read "Weather Report too conventional". Right...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2018 at 08:42
All were great , but I went with Return to Forever. That line up is tough to beat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2018 at 05:17
Not big jazz fusion guy at all, but listening sometimes some Mahavishnu. Birds of Fire is great!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2018 at 04:06
How could Tale Spinnin’ (Weather Report) be ‘conventional’ ??

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2018 at 03:10
Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Return To Forever easily.
 
If Brand X was included, the choice would be more difficult.
 
Mahavishnu slightly behind.
 
Weather Report was good, but far too conventional for my tastes.

I am just of the opposite opinion; Weather Report were the most unconventional of the three when it comes to jazz-rock/fusion. just think of an album like "Black Market" (my favorite one of them)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2018 at 02:24
Mahavishnu is a tad overrated IMHO. Cobham is the real star of that band. I prefer John's playing with Miles Davis.

Weather Report all the way.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2017 at 18:52
Can't say I've listened to any of those bands extensively, but judging by some of their more well-known albums (Birds of Fire, Romantic Warrior and Heavy Weather), Return To Forever appeals to me the most because their arrangements are a lot more exciting and interesting. I guess it's not really a fair comparison because Romantic Warrior feels like a straight up prog album with some jazz elements rather than vice versa to me. That being said, I love Light As A Feather too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2017 at 18:17
Frank Zappa and Miles Davis did it first (at least well) but Mahavishnu Orchestra took it all the way. So MahaOrch for me

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2017 at 15:59
Not a huge fusion fan but I love some of Mahavishnu's "Birds of Fire" and "The Inner Mounting Flame"...but if Bruford had been a choice that would've gotten the vote...One of a Kind is perfect Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2017 at 15:50
Where is Soft Machine, Brand X, Bruford or the Dixie Dregs?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2017 at 14:21
All are great but I would go:

1. Return to Forever
2. Mahavishnu Orchestra
3. Weather Report

All three bands had some amazing musicians

 Think of some of the match ups you would have here.
Joe Zawinul vs. Chick Corea - Jaco vs. Stanely Clark  - Al DiMeola vs. John Mclaughlin

 Crazy!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2017 at 07:51
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2017 at 19:18
Hard to go wrong with any of those bands. So much talent between them. One massive supergroup of talent. McLaughlin, Jaco,Clarke,Zawinul,Cobham,Corea,DiMeola,Shorter,etc,etc,etc
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2017 at 03:03
Hadn't seen that WR clip before, thanks for posting
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2017 at 20:48
This is my personal favorite Weather Report footage:


Especially the first thing they do - Miroslav Vitous playing electric Fender through an Orange amp - sounds so good - they are grooving so hard but it's like an alien transmission...

Speaking of alien transmissions, the Bill Connors-era RTF stuff is super heavy, almost jazz-metal - plus Stanley Clarke playing a Rickenbacker, and a single-pickup Jetglo 4000 at that!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2017 at 17:10
LOL touché my friend.. well played Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2017 at 17:06
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

urrrggg...... examples 1, 2, and 3 of why I think fusion sucks.. throw some notes in a blender and see how fast you can play it and call it fusion LOL Thumbs Down

voting 'other' on this one... real jazz-rock fusion... LOL


Yeah, this shouldn't have been called "Crystal Silence", it should have been Crystal Meth Shred Attack:



And "Crystal" off I Sing the Body Electric should have been called "Crystal Meth" too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myEyFtImuYk

That said, here's a more energetic song off I Sing the Body Electric since it's one of my favourites:



Seriously, I wouldn't say that is true of early Weather Report or Return to Forever. If you haven't listened to Weather Report's first two albums or Return to Forever's first in a while, it might be time to try them again, even if they are not quite so relaxed as various Camel and Genesis numbers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2017 at 16:35
urrrggg...... examples 1, 2, and 3 of why I think fusion sucks.. throw some notes in a blender and see how fast you can play it and call it fusion LOL Thumbs Down

voting 'other' on this one... real jazz-rock fusion... LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2017 at 13:36
Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

Originally posted by Rushman Rushman wrote:

Speaking of Fusion; I tuned into my local heavy metal station the other day (WSOU, out of Seton Hall University), and I heard this fusion song coming out of my speakers, I thought they changed formats!

Turns out it is a band called Nova Collective, with members of Between The Buried and Me, and Haken. It is quite good:



Definitely one of the best albums I've heard this year so far. These guys are phenomenal! 
Agreed! Also check out Trioscapes if you haven't. Another fusion project by Dan Briggs (bass, drums, sax mainly), bought their second album at a BTBAM show and that led me to discover Nova Collective as well.


And well, I've been listening to tons of Weather Report lately, but Mahavishnu might still be my favourite with their rawer edge. Romantic Warrior is all I've heard from Return to Forever, I suppose I should give it another go.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2017 at 12:36
Originally posted by Rushman Rushman wrote:

Speaking of Fusion; I tuned into my local heavy metal station the other day (WSOU, out of Seton Hall University), and I heard this fusion song coming out of my speakers, I thought they changed formats!

Turns out it is a band called Nova Collective, with members of Between The Buried and Me, and Haken. It is quite good:



Definitely one of the best albums I've heard this year so far. These guys are phenomenal! 
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