Is Foxtrot Underated?

I also think Foxtrot is one of Genesis's best but I actually think it is "overrated". If you look at the average rating on this database, it has a score of 4.60 which places it in the top 10 of prog albums. I personally don't think anything produced by Genesis deserves such a rank although I love the band very much.

I don't think so.

I don't think so. To demonstrate the overratedness of Foxtrot in comparison to Selling England I use these two ProgArchives reviews as exhibit A:

A Five Star Review of Foxtrot by Vasco:

vasco wrote: this is wthout ANY DOUBT one masterpiece of progressive music, one of the best albums in rock history!it is just AMAZING!!!with songs such as supper's ready,get'em out by friday,watcher of the skys and an incredibly UNDERater song: Can-Utility And The Coastliners! God I wich this was a 20 minutes long track with the same melody.The middle instrumental section is for me, one of the most beautifull and emotional melodies I ever heard in my ENTIRE life, among others, like hackett's final section on "shadow of the hierophant" from the "voyage of the acolyte" album(wich I highly recomend as one of the best progressive records ever).Anyway, Foxtrot is among selling englan and nursery cryme,the bests albums of genesis.By this time, I'm still 14 years old, but I know I'll listen to this album forever!

A one star review of Selling England by the Pound by garla1lh:

garla1lh wrote: I had to check out this album, being that it is the most highly rated on prog archives. I was very disappointed! I had already not been a fan of genesis, but i was only familiar with Duke and Abacab, so I thought possibly that Genesis was much better earlier in their carrer and had just tapered off. Maybe thats the case, but this is still not a great album. Nothing about the musical quality of this album, or anything by Genesis for that matter is exceptional. The musical skill is simply average for me, and the songs are very boring with no truly memorable hooks. And some of the longer songs like the Cinema show seem to drag on for much longer than is pleasurable. Not an essential album at all. Possibly 2 stars, because fans of Genesis of course like Genesis, but I was so frustrated by the high ratings and lack of delivery that its a 1 star in my book.

;)

And garla thought more highly of Foxtrot, giving it a two, But, looking at some more reviews I see that some listeners had the opposite opinion.

Foxtrot is, as has been mentioned, a very highly rated album, and it is also a very muchly reviewed album. Selling England by the Pound is even higher rated and more reviewed. I happen to prefer the lower rated albums Trespass and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, but that isn't to say that I think people are underrating my preferred choices or overrating Foxtrot and Selling England by the Pound. Frankly, no Genesis album would make my top 100, but to each his or her own.

I myself think it's the best Genesis album, so I can't think I've overrated it.

garla1lh wrote: I had to check out this album, being that it is the most highly rated on prog archives. I was very disappointed! I had already not been a fan of genesis, but i was only familiar with Duke and Abacab, so I thought possibly that Genesis was much better earlier in their carrer and had just tapered off. Maybe thats the case, but this is still not a great album. Nothing about the musical quality of this album, or anything by Genesis for that matter is exceptional. The musical skill is simply average for me, and the songs are very boring with no truly memorable hooks. And some of the longer songs like the Cinema show seem to drag on for much longer than is pleasurable. Not an essential album at all. Possibly 2 stars, because fans of Genesis of course like Genesis, but I was so frustrated by the high ratings and lack of delivery that its a 1 star in my book.

f**king A!!!!   someone promote him to admin...  make him the owner... he has a brain and uses it.. more than most here do. 

micky wrote: garla1lh wrote: I had to check out this album, being that it is the most highly rated on prog archives. I was very disappointed! I had already not been a fan of genesis, but i was only familiar with Duke and Abacab, so I thought possibly that Genesis was much better earlier in their carrer and had just tapered off. Maybe thats the case, but this is still not a great album. Nothing about the musical quality of this album, or anything by Genesis for that matter is exceptional. The musical skill is simply average for me, and the songs are very boring with no truly memorable hooks. And some of the longer songs like the Cinema show seem to drag on for much longer than is pleasurable. Not an essential album at all. Possibly 2 stars, because fans of Genesis of course like Genesis, but I was so frustrated by the high ratings and lack of delivery that its a 1 star in my book. f**king A!!!!   someone promote him to admin...  make him the owner... he has a brain and uses it.. more than most here do.

You're late!

12/10

Larkstongue41 wrote: Rednight wrote: Larkstongue41 wrote: I also think Foxtrot is one of Genesis's best but I actually think it is "overrated". If you look at the average rating on this database, it has a score of 4.60 which places it in the top 10 of prog albums. I personally don't think anything produced by Genesis deserves such a rank although I love the band very much. Talk about wishy-washy. 4.60 seems suitably appropriate for this great English prog product. So much to love here and then some. Your opinion reflects the 3000+ ratings of that album, I'm sure most people here would agree with you on that. Why call my comment wishy-washy though? I'm not offended in any way, I'm just tired of seeing you insecure condescending person constantly using this forum to vent out your apparent frustration. Peace.

So you're not offended then.

It's not underated.....Supremely OVERATED. A cover that makes no sense and a 24min song about religious gibberish.

aglasshouse wrote: In the prog world Foxtrot is often hailed and practically worshiped as one of the best prog albums of all time. Outside the prog sphere even it's popularity is nothing to scoff at though, as many people think it's one of if not the best Gabriel-era Genesis album. Personally I think in the time between 1969-1975 Selling England was their best, but we're talking about <i style="font-weight: bold;">popularity here, not <i style="font-weight: bold;">quality, right?

Well, even if popularity is the one considered, Selling England might just as well take it. If I remember correctly, it's the highest rated Genesis album on PA.