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Hercules
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Topic: Which would you actually prefer to endure? Posted: June 24 2017 at 05:54 |
Anyone who has read The Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy knows that Vogon poetry is the worst in the universe; so much so that some have only survived a reading by gnawing off limbs so that the pain distracts them.
I confess that, after watching Radiohead at Glastonbury, I was close to having to seek the services of an artificial leg manufacturer. I really enjoyed Muse last year - and they're not usually my favourite band - because they were sensational live. In the same way, I'm generally ambivalent about Radiohead, but thought they might shine live. They didn't. To say they bombed is an understatement.
So pick your poison.
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AZF
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Posted: June 24 2017 at 07:02 |
Everyone on my Facebook apart from a few treasured raved over Radiohead yesterday. What was once the mighty NME is raving over Radiohead. Me? I tried. I used to feel fine about being out of step with everyone. Now I real feel alienation! That's the trouble with Glarrstonberrry. It's a bubble that makes you feel like really really connected with people and that, but reality hits you on the travel home. Bet they don't even have decent drugs any more! That's the whole point of going to that sh*t hole!
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Posted: June 24 2017 at 07:35 |
Anyone who profits from self pity is probably thankful for their purported torment.
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Flight123
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Posted: June 24 2017 at 07:41 |
Glastonbury does not do prog - in the early 70s there was Hawkwind, Henry Cow, Gong, etc. and in 79 to the early 80s there was plenty of Gong alumni. Yes finally got invited in 2003 (ish) and I think Marillion were there at some stage in the 80s, but not much else. Back to the original point - I understand the affection for Radiohead but would rather watch Muse...
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lazland
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Posted: June 24 2017 at 09:16 |
I thought Radiohead were excellent last night. I thoroughly enjoyed the one shining light in a festival of utter dross.
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Manuel
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Posted: June 24 2017 at 10:02 |
Honestly, none of them.
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Wanorak
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Posted: June 24 2017 at 14:40 |
Radiohead.
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Hercules
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Posted: June 24 2017 at 15:29 |
lazland wrote:
I thought Radiohead were excellent last night. I thoroughly enjoyed the one shining light in a festival of utter dross. |
We rarely disagree but, on this occasion, I'm going to dissent. I thought they were awful.
The Foo Fighters are pretty good though, so it's not (quite) all dross.
I didn't think much of Jeremy Corbyn's set, but it could have been worse: Theresa May wasn't there.
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twseel
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Posted: June 24 2017 at 15:36 |
Hahaha thank you Hercules, watching them on TV as I'm typing because some friends wanted to see it, oh how some Vogon poetry would distract me from this pain...
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Hercules
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Posted: June 24 2017 at 17:43 |
twseel wrote:
Hahaha thank you Hercules, watching them on TV as I'm typing because some friends wanted to see it, oh how some Vogon poetry would distract me from this pain... |
"Oh freddled gruntbuggly,Thy micturations are to meAs plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,Or I will rend thee in the gobberwartsWith my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!" Better than Thom Yorke's whining, wasn't it?
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Lewian
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Posted: June 24 2017 at 17:44 |
I didn't really see the logic in Radiohead's set list and I think that they end off their songs too abruptly live, they just do their stuff but haven't added much to them for their performance. So it wasn't all great, but I love their music and largely they did it well, so 3.5 stars from me.
The Foo Fighters are good entertainment but ultimately just a too perfect everybody's darling rock band. Dave Grohl is a nice guy but he'll never be David Bowie, Kurt Cobain or even Thom Yorke, he's just too nicely catering for everybody and lacking edge (despite their outbursts of wildness; you see what he's learnt in Nirvana but as controlled and well dosed as in the Foo Fighters you know too well that everything's always safe).
By the way I saw two songs of a band called BadBadNotGood for the first time in today's Glastonbury coverage, I loved them. Thundercat were good, too.
Edited by Lewian - June 24 2017 at 18:00
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 02:30 |
WTF is Vogon poetry ??? By the sound of it, I prefer Radiohead's Kid A. I don't even like Radiohead tbh, though Kid A is a spectacular album....
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 03:47 |
^You've never read Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy? Surely a must for any prog fan.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 04:04 |
Lewian wrote:
I didn't really see the logic in Radiohead's set list and I think that they end off their songs too abruptly live, they just do their stuff but haven't added much to them for their performance. So it wasn't all great, but I love their music and largely they did it well, so 3.5 stars from me.
The Foo Fighters are good entertainment but ultimately just a too perfect everybody's darling rock band. Dave Grohl is a nice guy but he'll never be David Bowie, Kurt Cobain or even Thom Yorke, he's just too nicely catering for everybody and lacking edge (despite their outbursts of wildness; you see what he's learnt in Nirvana but as controlled and well dosed as in the Foo Fighters you know too well that everything's always safe).
By the way I saw two songs of a band called BadBadNotGood for the first time in today's Glastonbury coverage, I loved them. Thundercat were good, too.
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I have just seen a couple of episodes of the rockumentary Sonic Highways and find it extremely puzzling to have all these gifted musicians talking about some of the seminal moments, people and places in rock history...and then you get The Foo Fighters take on it, which granted, was far more interesting than what I would have thought - anyway they recognise all the great music and talk about how great music is born - about throwing out the rule book and trying something a little different and bla bla bla. Fact of the matter is that by the end of the show they record a new song for their upcoming album, Sonic Highways, and every goddamn one of them sounds EXACTLY like the one preceding it It truly boggles the mind how these musicians can get so incredibly inspired by their surroundings and then NOT try something new/different (the one exception I noted was the 10 second inclusion of a country western sounding guitar to an intro...from there on the song just went into every other Foo Fighter tune they've ever released.) After 3 of these in a row I was literally in tears! Bizarroworld. They remind me of Nickleback actually.
With all that being said; I still find these guys very sympathetic. Dave Grohl should've stuck with the drums though.
P.S. I am very jealous of you. I would've loved to see BadBadNotGood and Thundercat.
Edited by Guldbamsen - June 25 2017 at 07:42
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AZF
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 06:25 |
Foo Fighters. Yeah, they can play their instruments and can perform well. But musically their music just doesn't have any depth. There's a teenager born every minute of course. And if liking the band is now the dividing line between youth and old then hand me my Zimmer frame! At least I can listen to stuff that reveals its secrets upon multiple listens. With their music it's big riff,shouty bit, back to big riff, back to shouty bit. Thanks for introducing Jack Black to the world. No idea what I would have done with my life otherwise. "Nicest Man In Rock?". Well he's the most compromised for a start. But as you were, Radiohead Vs Vogon Poetry!
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 06:38 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
^You've never read Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy? Surely a must for any prog fan. |
Nope !! I can read, say, a band / artist bio the size of a bible, but a regular novel does little for me. I even bought a large-ish collection of Moorcock paperbacks 20-odd years ago and I've read about 3 of them - only 18 to go !!! At this rate, I'll be dead by the sixth one.....
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 09:36 |
Radiohead, easily, although I have no problem with Vogon poetry. As poetry goes, it's certainly 'prog' Radiohead's Glastonbury set was superb IMO. They really come alive when playing live. I do understand why they polarise opinion so much.
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lazland
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 14:34 |
Hercules wrote:
lazland wrote:
I thought Radiohead were excellent last night. I thoroughly enjoyed the one shining light in a festival of utter dross. |
We rarely disagree but, on this occasion, I'm going to dissent. I thought they were awful.
The Foo Fighters are pretty good though, so it's not (quite) all dross.
I didn't think much of Jeremy Corbyn's set, but it could have been worse: Theresa May wasn't there. | Yep, very rare we do not see eye to eye on our music. I thought the idea of a rather old socialist appealing to a bunch of metropolitan yoofs to be slightly amusing. As I am typing this, I have appropriated the telly in my dining room (the better half is watching the choir thingy in the other room) to watch Saxon on Sky 1 at Wacken 2014. Good old Biff. Far better than bloody Sheeran at Glasters!
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 16:12 |
Do know anything about the performance itself, but that set list sounds good to me.
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twseel
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Posted: June 25 2017 at 16:35 |
Hercules wrote:
twseel wrote:
Hahaha thank you Hercules, watching them on TV as I'm typing because some friends wanted to see it, oh how some Vogon poetry would distract me from this pain... |
"Oh freddled gruntbuggly,Thy micturations are to meAs plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,Or I will rend thee in the gobberwartsWith my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!" Better than Thom Yorke's whining, wasn't it? |
Thank you dearly, that was a relief.
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