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By all means Tymon join our club!! Hell it may even end up in yet another person checking out Igor Wakhevitch. Greg is chairman of the Igor Lunch Club so it is very recommended to brownnose him in unorthodox manners. The above jootoob clips may just be what the doctor's prescribed.
Thanks for the recs btw - much appreciated. It will have to wait until I get back behind my laptop but I'm looking forward to it - especially after having read your descriptions. As a thank you I recommend you click the link I provided Greg. I think you'd dig The Comet Is Coming big time.
Ahhh, I need to listen to more of Igor. I did a tour of all of his albums about a year ago and came back to Docteur Faust and Logos a few times afterwards. Great music, really need to revisit.
And I really like what I'm hearing from The Comet is Coming so far. I am listening to the album as we speak, great stuff. Unlike anything I've heard really. Thanks a lot!
And also to get on the topic, I know what you mean regarding Epitath, David. I got that the first time, too, as I did with a lot of classic prog when I was discovering the music for the first time a few years ago, it's not a problem for me now, though. I voted for ELP's debut, although it was a difficult decision. Both albums are great, but ELP's first might just be my favorite from the band and King Crimson had much better albums for me personally, hence my choice.
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Posted: July 20 2017 at 16:39
David: Love what I've heard so far of Channel the Spirits. "Prophesy' is right up my alley. Will listen to the whole thing at a later time.
Timon: Love the Milt Ward & Virgo Spectrum and the George Russell too.
Thanks for the recommendations. When I get the chance I'll really sit down to listen to all three in full, but heard enough already to know that I really like all three.
Erm, to finish this post in more of in an on-topic way. I don't mind Greg Lake's singing on Epitaph, even if it is overwrought. I prefer him on In the Wake of Poseidon.
Heh...maybe it's about time this thread got back on track. Hmmm...err...yeah. Let me be the first one here to admit to not liking Epitaph. I know I know BLASPHEMY!!! So many friends of mine absolutely adore this one, but I find it way too emotional in a way that borders on charicature. I blame the vocals entirely. It's like margarine with butter on top.
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
By all means Tymon join our club!! Hell it may even end up in yet another person checking out Igor Wakhevitch. Greg is chairman of the Igor Lunch Club so it is very recommended to brownnose him in unorthodox manners. The above jootoob clips may just be what the doctor's prescribed.
Thanks for the recs btw - much appreciated. It will have to wait until I get back behind my laptop but I'm looking forward to it - especially after having read your descriptions. As a thank you I recommend you click the link I provided Greg. I think you'd dig The Comet Is Coming big time.
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
Hey David and Greg, as bold of a statement as that would be to make, I also daresay I might be on similar wavelengths as you regarding this fantastic exotic/funky/cosmic jazz conversation you are having on two threads now. One of my recent discoveries is a lone album from Milt Ward & Virgo Spectrum. Really pleasant funky cosmic exotic jazz.
Also, a bit more on the avant-garde side of things, one of my favorite jazz albums of all time is George Russell's Electronic Sonata for Souls Loved by Nature, which utilizes tapes of North Ugandian folk music and recordings from Electronic Music Studios (EMS) of the Swedish Radio in Stockholm, which I found extremely fascinating. Highly recommended.
Don't know if I hit the nail on the head as to what is discussed here, but I thought it wouldn't be inappropriate if I threw my two cents in.
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Posted: July 20 2017 at 08:28
uduwudu wrote:
There are people who think 90125 is Yes' debut. Apparently it's not. Couldn't find another like it before that. All this boring disappointing stuff like And You And I, Gates Of Delirium, Starship Trooper, Heart Of The Sunrise, Awaken, Close To The Edge etc. Dunno why I keep buying it all again...
Ahh thanks Greg you're a peach I am really digging Okay Temiz as we speak. Definitely a future purchase. I know and love most of the other ones you've mentioned, but I guess that isn't too strange seeing as our tastes often cross paths. Don Harper and The Roger Webb Sound though are both uninown territories for me, so I have some investigation ahead of me. Thanks again.
As a quick thank you I thought it appropriate to recommend you something back in the same vein...although this one came out last year and was recommended to me by Simon (Mascodagama) who seems to be on the same musical wavelength as we are. The Comet Is Coming - Channel The Spirits: https://thecometiscoming.bandcamp.com/album/channel-the-spirits
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Posted: July 19 2017 at 14:35
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Thanks man I'm proud of that. I love Afreaka! and play it on a weekly basis - especially during the warmer months. Lately I've been on a bit of a funk and jazz kick incessantly listening to Funkadelic, Parliament, Tim Maia (Brazilian funk from the 70s no less. Highly recommended to people with legs) as well as Coltrane, Don Cherry (fun fact: his son does the weather on our national tv channel DR1) and Yusef Lateef - the latter's Eastern Sounds and Blue albums are two I simply cannot stop listening to. Helps me relax my slipped disks at night (weed also helps). I know this probably isn't the thread for this but PA is such a slow and uninteresting place these days that I gather no one will make a fuss about a Dane asking for jazz recs in unorthodox places. Anyway Greg, do you know of similar sounding records? I'm thinking chillax jazz but in slippers and pirate clothes. Soothing sounds but also ones that challenge the ear. Eastern and psychedelic influences are most welcome. I know I am not making much sense, but if anyone is able to decipher me it's probably you.
I can decipher you, but I just can't think of great recommendations. I love John Coltrane, Don Cherry, and Yusef Lateef's Eatsern SOunds is a msterpiece.
I love cosmic jazz, and jazz funk, jazz with an eastern vibe/ exotics, and cool jazz, but I can't think of anything that quite fits the bill. You might know all of these already, but I feel like mentioning albums like Herbie Mann's Stone Flute, Alice Coltrane's Universal Consciousness and Journey in Satchidananda (love those), various Pharoah Sanders, Janko Nilovic, Don Harper, The Roger Webb Sound and a host of stuff, but I can't think of anything that quite fits the bill. Basically I'm just listing some of my favourite jazzy artists there.
While I wouldn't say that this is what you're looking for, it's quite energetic, I think you'll like it, so I'm mentioning it anyway: Oriental Wind and Okay Temiz'
Thanks man I'm proud of that. I love Afreaka! and play it on a weekly basis - especially during the warmer months. Lately I've been on a bit of a funk and jazz kick incessantly listening to Funkadelic, Parliament, Tim Maia (Brazilian funk from the 70s no less. Highly recommended to people with legs) as well as Coltrane, Don Cherry (fun fact: his son does the weather on our national tv channel DR1) and Yusef Lateef - the latter's Eastern Sounds and Blue albums are two I simply cannot stop listening to. Helps me relax my slipped disks at night (weed also helps). I know this probably isn't the thread for this but PA is such a slow and uninteresting place these days that I gather no one will make a fuss about a Dane asking for jazz recs in unorthodox places. Anyway Greg, do you know of similar sounding records? I'm thinking chillax jazz but in slippers and pirate clothes. Soothing sounds but also ones that challenge the ear. Eastern and psychedelic influences are most welcome. I know I am not making much sense, but if anyone is able to decipher me it's probably you.
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Posted: July 19 2017 at 09:16
And back with Genesis, I have come across someone who assumed that the 1983 self-titled Genesis album was the band's first. Not surprising. Doing that does seem to announce that a band is re-inventing itself, wants to be seen as starting from scratch, as self-titled does imply debut album to me.
^^ I forgot about Organisation - Tone Float. I like that album a lot. I think of it as pre-Kraftwerk. In such cases I tend to think along the lines of Organisation/ Kraftwerk, almost as an entity that combines the projects but separate too. I've been trying to rite something more detailed on that, but my brain is not firing due to lack of sleep (so I deleted most of what I was writing in this post). And David, of course I know you like various of those albums very much. When I think of Afreaka!, for instance, I always think of you. Off on a tangent, but what a boring site this would be to me if the archives stuck with what is conservatively deemed Prog. Most of the music I like in the 'chives I don't label as Prog-proper.
There are people who think 90125 is Yes' debut. Apparently it's not. Couldn't find another like it before that. All this boring disappointing stuff like And You And I, Gates Of Delirium, Starship Trooper, Heart Of The Sunrise, Awaken, Close To The Edge etc. Dunno why I keep buying it all again...
Anyway.. a new line up is a debut. It just might not be under the normal sales brand.
I know people who believe Autobahn is the first Kraftwerk album. I know other people who think that Kraftwerk 1 is their debut. Then again I believe they made their debut back with Organisation - Tone Float. A rose is still a rose... Don't know why I said that but I am enjoying a cup of coffee in my boxers and a fine pair of yellow socks.
I thought about the titles you mentioned too Greg - many of them are faves of mine as well as you probably know by now, but like you I too questilned their porkyness. Most old school prog fans I know tend to stick to a tried and tested format which rather defeats the purpose of the genre to begin with but I digress. But if we're talking progressive (big P) releases ca 1969 then:
White Noise - An Electric Storm Holger Czukay - Canaxis Xhol Caravan - Electrip Clark Hutchinson- A = MH2 Cromagnon - Orgasm
I did forget one of my favourite Danish psych/prog debuts in Burning Red Ivanhoe's M144. Stable inventory here in Denmark.
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Thanks a lot! 
I am really digging Okay Temiz as we speak. Definitely a future purchase.