Prog is dead, so dead

Progaholic2 wrote: Oh come on...

The words most often used as the final gasp of any fading argument anywhere. "Oh come on" does not mean "I am correct", it means "Please please please let me get what I want"

Also, nobody calling themself a progaholic would say prog is dead.

But feel free to continue being marvellous

Like Iain (lemming) I too can relate to the OP in that Prog Rock "lost" something during the latter part of the 70s. It didn't die though it's a style of music that is still being aped today which in effect is its biggest problem - one the audience is just as guilty of imo. Prog fans were the first to dismiss their heroes' attempts at making something new. When we the audience at some point in time turned prog rock into a sticker/box with prefabricated notions of how it is supposed to sound like - we killed the spirit.
Most of what's progressive these days happen outside of the tried and tested prog format, which perhaps isn't that strange seing as the genre by now is half a century old.
What I then don't get is the perpetual wall of negatives steaming out of people who once thought an open mind opened doors in music. Nowadays the mindset seems to be reversed. More than anything it seems as if some people indeed are searching for a time machine to transport them back into their youths where they, ironically, were far more open to new experiences.
Then again give these people what they want and they immediately play the 'copycat' card. "I want what Yes, Genesis and Yes were doing dammit!!!!! It's so sad that nobody's making music like this anymore'
*is given some 50 (unknown to him) examples of bands doing exactly that*
'Baahh!! That is some horribly derivative sh*te! Why aren't bands trying out new stuff anymore?'
*is given some 50 (unknown to him) examples of bands doing exactly that*
'That's not prog'

This is the neverending conversation one can enjoy with such folks. Often people claiming to be openminded and always lookig for new experimental stuff. New and experimental is just code for 'I want music that sounds exactly like the stuff already found in my record collection and if it is made after 1980 it is automatically unoriginal/non melodic/ poorly produced/without heart/insert excuse for not giving music a fair shot.

I am not saying that it is mandatory to keep exploring and I am not saying that it is possible to attain the eclectism of one's youth all through life, but it is perfectly possible to be honest with oneself and in being that realise that it probably was a loooooooooooong time ago since you actively sought out new avenues of sound - tried to listen to music that does not sound like anything in your collection - just like that time you bought In The Court Of The Crimson King with no expectations because you quite simply never had heard anything like it before...yet for some reason were able to keep an open mind.

Edited by Guldbamsen - July 22 2017 at 06:24

Not offended of what you said - we've heard it all before - but offended by the hostile tone in your OP. Big difference.

High horse? I think you started the derby big boy.
Whatever makes you feel more at ease be my guest. You commenced this horse manure and when you then get back in full you complain.
Oh and btw I have not thrown any insults your way that you weren't asking for to begin with

Tom Ozric wrote: No heart and soul ?? Even Extreme Metal has heart and soul, just not the warm, fuzzy kind most of us are used to

Dead! just the way I like it!--meaning its had a burial, meaning its underground, meaning I can dig it up and present it as something unique and interesting to the few who will listen. 

If it were popular, or in style,or in vogue (or whatever), I probably wouldn't listen to it.

Progaholic2 wrote: Thank you all for your suggestions which I have noted and will investigate. I visit sites like NEWPROGRELEASES in the vain hope of finding some great prog. Thus far it hasn't happened, and my post from last night was one of frustration and hoping that you might be able to suggest some truly inspiring and talented bands.

Ars Longa Vita Brevis

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - July 22 2017 at 10:53

Thatfabulousalien wrote: People say this about most genres, I guess most genres are dead

Good thing I'm just a music fan at this point!

Quinino wrote: mlkpad14 wrote: Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: Discipline - To Shatter All Accord (2011) That one's quite the masterpiece! Absolutely amazing! Oh Yeah !!! Roger, be warned, you might very soon have to revert your opinion just by hanging around here - do yourself a favour, just keep your mind (and ears) open, please

I think prog died years and years ago and what we're hearing it just music emulated from the archives of prog.

Because we're living in a simulation.