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    Posted: July 24 2017 at 15:16
From Strawbs homepage, news of a forthcoming album "The Ferryman's Curse".  It will be the first album of all new material since 2009.  The title track is supposed to be a sequel to "The Vision of the Lady of the Lake" which appeared on the Dragonfly album from 1970.  It also marked Rick Wakeman's first appearance in album notes though he had played as session musician for several artists prior to that.



Perhaps buoyed by Rolling Stone's selection of Hero and Heroine as one of the 50 best prog rock albums of all time, Cousins and company may hearken back to their most prog period of H&H and Ghosts.  "The Broken Hearted Bride" from 2008 came close but was let down by a few average songs towards the end.

It looks like there will be opportunities to help finance the project made available shortly




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Count me in, prog or not.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2017 at 20:53
So I didn't understand if Wakeman will be playing on this new album, or they are only talking about his appearance on "The Lady of the Lake" thing.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

So I didn't understand if Wakeman will be playing on this new album, or they are only talking about his appearance on "The Lady of the Lake" thing.

I doubt Rick Wakeman will be on the new album.  I was just mentioning that he had played on the original song.

It's likely to be Dave Bainbridge from Iona playing keys on the new album.  
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Count me in, prog or not.

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pre-ordering to get your name in the booklet is open now, only till Sept 8

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Yippie! Yippie! Yippie! Big smile
"If everything feels like its under control, then you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti.
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Dick Greener, the all round good guy at strawbsweb, has an advance copy of the album and had reviewed it track by track


Sounds like lots of mellotron, several instances of dual lead guitars, and even bouzouki on one track!


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Aside from the classic keyboard sounds, the idea of twin guitar leads featuring both Lambert and Bainbridge sounds awesome. Can't wait to hear this album!

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If the Greener man says it is their best in many years...

Yeah, this will be good.
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

If the Greener man says it is their best in many years...

Yeah, this will be good.

too bad the tour won't go near Massachusetts, or Quebec, for that matter  Thumbs Down
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^ I'm a satisfied newly retired long-time concertgoer so it doesn't really matter.

I'll def get any recent live album, though. Cheers.
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

^ I'm a satisfied newly retired long-time concertgoer so it doesn't really matter.

I'll def get any recent live album, though. Cheers.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barbu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2017 at 12:36
Copy arrived, Strawbs weekend ahead!

Reviewing albums in englisse has never been one of my strenght but I'll surely post a word or two about how I feel about it.

Everything i've read so far have been highly favourable and I'm expecting total enjoyment from this new Strawbs.


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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Copy arrived, Strawbs weekend ahead!

Reviewing albums in englisse has never been one of my strenght but I'll surely post a word or two about how I feel about it.

Everything i've read so far have been highly favourable and I'm expecting total enjoyment from this new Strawbs.


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Just received mine yesterday.  Looking forward to your impressions
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Looking forward to yours and Steve too, of course.

Have a good listening!

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Good one for sure.

The compositions are on par with those of the last two albums, nothing groundbreaking but definitely their proggiest sounding album in a while. Dave Bainbridge is a very welcome addition, his contribution really add more depth to the Strawbs sound...Cousins in fine voice, great duelling guitars, lots of Hammond (yeah!) and man I love that Lambert track.

Solid three.

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I agree it's a solid 3 stars, but I was hoping for more.  The review is formulating but is probably a few days away.
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^ I wasn't expecting another Strawbs classic this late in the game but i know what you mean. honestly, i'm quite satisfied with it.

My only complaint is about the drums, they sound pretty awful in some places (always disliked those 'big arena rock' drum sound).

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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

^ I wasn't expecting another Strawbs classic this late in the game but i know what you mean. honestly, i'm quite satisfied with it.

My only complaint is about the drums, they sound pretty awful in some places (always disliked those 'big arena rock' drum sound).

hmm, I think I agree.  In general the sound is much more overproduced than even their 70s albums.  There was also a spot-on melodic simplicity in the early work that is lacking in all but a couple of songs.  Early Strawbs songs would stick in your ear for days.  A Song like "The Nails from the Hands of Christ" is good but hardly hummable.  The easiest way to compare the new/old is to compare the title track to its predecessor, "The Vision of the Lady of the Lake.  In comparison it's a tedious drone.  And the original had its flaws, but total lack of melody was not one of them.

I know Bainbridge is a good keyboard player but I have listened to Iona in the past and IMO he has brought some of the issues I have with Iona into Strawbs.  I noticed this on his interludes between songs on the new live H&H performances.  Lots of notes but no apparent master plan at all.  Compare the lovely sounding instrumental intros that go nowhere on the new album with the succinct beauty of "remembering" written and delivered by John Hawken on "Ghosts".  I'll take Hawken's work any day.

I shouldn't pile on too much - there are several excellent songs, with the 2 best being back to back - "The Familiarity of Old Lovers" and "When the Spirit Moves", and the twin leads are a great idea.  "Bats and Swallows" is in the vein of the better light tracks in their history.  "The Nails" is pretty good, flaws notwithstanding.  The closer is good but I found the ending flat.  




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