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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2017 at 13:25
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Now that i think about it, i would love to hear the two bands do an album together. Van Magma Generator would rock!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote siLLy puPPy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2017 at 14:47
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Now that i think about it, i would love to hear the two bands do an album together. Van Magma Generator would rock!


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Doh! You win! That is perfect :)
OK, their first album could be called Kobaiabluff Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote YESESIS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2017 at 18:32
I don't know if you're supposed to vote in your own poll or not on here.. but I just voted for Magma. To help them out a little since they're way behind, and also because listening to a lot of their stuff I'm starting to get really into it! I wasn't able to that much with Van der Graaf Generator except for the second song on Pawn Hearts. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2017 at 19:14
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Now that i think about it, i would love to hear the two bands do an album together. Van Magma Generator would rock!


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Doh! You win! That is perfect :)
OK, their first album could be called Kobaiabluff†Big smile


Or, erm, ah, The Least We Can Do Iss Udu Wudo To Each Other. You win that one.   

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Anyway, I love both and my first inclination is not to choose, but there is more so much more Magma that I have and love. Between, studio and live albums, compilations etc., I think I have more Magma albums than by any other, save Ennio Morricone.
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Hard to choose. Van der Graaf Generator just over Magma.
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I'm a sucker for everything PH related, in or out of VDGG (but specially  in)
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VDGG, no contest.
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I adore VdGG and they've been central to my life since H to He, but Magma invented a new kind of music so I had to vote for them.
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Wow, this is getting to be a blowout here. Maybe I need to give VdGG another chance.. 

Also I realize now that I should have included a third option like, "I'm too passionate about both bands! I just.. I can't choose. I won't!" This is literally my first poll on here so I'm still learning, but in the future some third option like that will be included. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 18:54
While most fans I know who are into Magma are also fans of VdGG, I know many who love VdGG who don't care much for Magma. Quite a few people don't like either band, as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 18:58
I like both bands a lot but voted for VDGG. It would seem that both are a bit of an acquired taste also so for that reason this is a very good matchup.
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I know many who think I am a psychopath when I put on some VdGG and Magma.

There's one dude, a long time ago, at a party who completely freaked out when he heard 'A Louse is not a Home'. The poor guy wasn't amused at all.

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I remember reading once where a guy who had a female roomate who said that Magma(I think MDK in particular) was the worst music she ever heard. Lol. 
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Wow, this is getting to be a blowout here. Maybe I need to give VdGG another chance..†

Also I realize now that I should have included a third option like, "I'm too passionate about both bands! I just.. I can't choose. I won't!" This is literally my first poll on here so I'm still learning, but in the future some third option like that will be included.†


I don't know what you have heard from this band, nor if my selection would work the same for you, buy my particular very favourite songs from this band are: "Darkness", "Man-Erg", "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" (first half for me, after that it gets a bit too messy for my taste), "The Sleepwalkers", and "La Rossa". You might add "Refugees", though it's a bit too poppy for a band like this, but just because of that it can be a rather good gateway song for someone having trouble digesting their music.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 21:39
I have to say here : when I first heard Crimso, it was their debut, then Lizard. I fell in love instantly. My first Magma dbl vinyl in 1989 was the Live album. I was too stoned to understand it then. To me, it was Satanic Jazz. It repulsed me. Fast forward 8 years of so, I picked up Udu Wudu and Attahk at a 1999 record fair. From then on, I was (sober and) hooked. Give it time. Similar story with VDGG, though I'm not advocating that you need to smoke dope to get into these guys - I'm (obviously) just a dumb-f**k that did it this way...... I'm sure there are many others......
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Wow, this is getting to be a blowout here. Maybe I need to give VdGG another chance..


I don't know what you have heard from this band, nor if my selection would work the same for you, buy my particular very favourite songs from this band are: "Darkness", "Man-Erg", "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" (first half for me, after that it gets a bit too messy for my taste), "The Sleepwalkers", and "La Rossa". You might add "Refugees", though it's a bit too poppy for a band like this, but just because of that it can be a rather good gateway song for someone having trouble digesting their music.

Ok, I'll have to check out those songs. I was listening to H to He and liked the first two songs, but the lyrics seemed pretty dark idk. 
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Thank you all for your responses so far. Sounds like most Magma fans also like VdGG, but not necessarily the other way around. Which is odd because I'm really clicking with Magma a lot, but so far having trouble forming any real connection with VdGG. 
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Wow, this is getting to be a blowout here. Maybe I need to give VdGG another chance..


I don't know what you have heard from this band, nor if my selection would work the same for you, buy my particular very favourite songs from this band are: "Darkness", "Man-Erg", "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" (first half for me, after that it gets a bit too messy for my taste), "The Sleepwalkers", and "La Rossa". You might add "Refugees", though it's a bit too poppy for a band like this, but just because of that it can be a rather good gateway song for someone having trouble digesting their music.


Ok, I'll have to check out those songs. I was listening to H to He and liked the first two songs, but the lyrics seemed pretty dark idk.†


Actually, it seems you chose the album I liked the least from the first albums I got from them. And yeah, those songs you mention are the ones I liked better, but for me the ones I wrote before were better. Perhaps you should have started with "The Least we can do"... also the first two songs are the better ones, but so much better to get one into the band than those from H to He. As for the lyrics, I haven't payed so much attention to them, but indeed they seem to be somewhat dark... and very well thought... some of the better ones from prog, but indeed I should check them out and analize them better. However, I don't see why these dark lyrics should be a detriment for the music, it's not like he's trying to convince people to do atrocities and all. Crimson's first album has lyrics at least as dark as these ones (what darker lyrics could you want than "Epitaph"?). And the lyric for Killer are actually rather silly, talking about a shark wanting to have friends and every fish in the ocean trying to escape him.
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