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Different styles - I Love the clanking industrial guitar work of Howe and the ghostly signature of Hackett - Two sides of the same genius and I love them both. (But I picked Hackett because the solo in FOF first got me into prog...the appreciation of Howe came later.....)
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Posted: August 09 2017 at 14:17
Couldn't possibly decide between them - both are totally wonderful! But then Wurm is just sooooooooo brilliant still excites and thrills me every time I hear it......
"I always say that its about breaking the rules. But the secret of breaking rules in a way that works is understanding what the rules are in the first place". Rick Wakeman
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Posted: August 09 2017 at 16:01
I'd have to go with Starship Trooper, although it's one of those songs (like a lot of The Yes Album) that they didn't really perfect until they started playing live. Personally, my favorite versions of that song are from the Tormato era.
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Posted: August 09 2017 at 21:04
ForestFriend wrote:
I'd have to go with Starship Trooper, although it's one of those songs (like a lot of The Yes Album) that they didn't really perfect until they started playing live. Personally, my favorite versions of that song are from the Tormato era.
Mine is the Keys to Ascension version, though I think I haven't heard a version from the Tormato era you mention. It might be interesting, but I doubt they had added Wakeman's brilliant keyboard duels with Howe in the Wurm section.
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Posted: August 09 2017 at 21:13
One previous poster stated that they'd wished Firth would never end - I can relate to that. I think that this Genesis track is THE most amazing piece of art ever really recorded. Yes, whether I love Sade or Slayer, Kajagoogoo or Meshuggah, Firth Of Fifth is THE MOST AMAZING 'song' I've been fortunate enough to enjoy. Pity those that don't think much of it....... Ps - I am hating correcting 'spellcheck'. Spellcheck would fail in high-school with its knowledge.
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Posted: August 09 2017 at 22:01
^ I must raid my sister's vinyl collection - this GTR album is there. I did recognise Hackett To Bits (or pieces, or whatever it is......). Still like ASIA more.
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Posted: August 10 2017 at 00:18
Dellinger wrote:
ForestFriend wrote:
I'd have to go with Starship Trooper, although it's one of those songs (like a lot of The Yes Album) that they didn't really perfect until they started playing live. Personally, my favorite versions of that song are from the Tormato era.
Mine is the Keys to Ascension version, though I think I haven't heard a version from the Tormato era you mention. It might be interesting, but I doubt they had added Wakeman's brilliant keyboard duels with Howe in the Wurm section.
On the contrary, Wakeman would pick up a keytar and duel head to head with Howe! Wakeman also adds another synth solo in the Disullion section underneath all the "Ohhhs", which I think was ditched for future tours.
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Posted: August 10 2017 at 01:18
Never mind prog - Hackett's solo on 'Firth of Fifth' is one of the most sublime, haunting and achingly beautiful in the history of electric music. On the contrary, 'Starship Trooper' suffers from the final Wurm section...
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Posted: August 12 2017 at 13:29
ForestFriend wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
ForestFriend wrote:
I'd have to go with Starship Trooper, although it's one of those songs (like a lot of The Yes Album) that they didn't really perfect until they started playing live. Personally, my favorite versions of that song are from the Tormato era.
Mine is the Keys to Ascension version, though I think I haven't heard a version from the Tormato era you mention. It might be interesting, but I doubt they had added Wakeman's brilliant keyboard duels with Howe in the Wurm section.
On the contrary, Wakeman would pick up a keytar and duel head to head with Howe! Wakeman also adds another synth solo in the Disullion section underneath all the "Ohhhs", which I think was ditched for future tours.
Yeah, that's a pretty cool version, and they did go crazy at the end with the solos... however, I still prefer the one on Keys to Ascension... Wakeman's solo sounds like he put more work into it. The bad part is that he just about stole the focus from Howe.
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Posted: August 14 2017 at 09:33
^Yeah, Wakeman won there. Howe is clearly very talented, but I don't respond well to his harsh vamping and flanging style on this song and many others. I don't get the whole conception of the song either. Why is this song not a Space Rock sort of thing?
So, um, anyway, as a song I don't like Firth of Fifth either, but I do absolutely love Hackett's soaring lead, and Banks' intro too.
A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now)
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