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Poll Question: So how about their contributions in these two songs?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2017 at 14:24
Good one, I like both al ot but I went with Howe on this one.
   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2017 at 15:38
Like both songs equally well...but prefer Hackett's solo over Howe's .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 04:07
Hackett without a doubt. Firth of Fifth is one of his best performances IMO.

Howe's solo work on Starship Trooper is pretty damn good though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 04:44
Different styles - I Love the clanking industrial guitar work of Howe and the ghostly signature of Hackett - Two sides of the same genius and I love them both. (But I picked Hackett because the solo in FOF first got me into prog...the appreciation of Howe came later.....)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 14:17
Couldn't possibly decide between them - both are totally wonderful! But then Wurm is just sooooooooo brilliant still excites and thrills me every time I hear it......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 14:58
If you would have put up Gates of Delirium, you might have had my vote for Howe. Delirium is a feat!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 16:01
I'd have to go with Starship Trooper, although it's one of those songs (like a lot of The Yes Album) that they didn't really perfect until they started playing live. Personally, my favorite versions of that song are from the Tormato era.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 21:04
Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

I'd have to go with Starship Trooper, although it's one of those songs (like a lot of The Yes Album) that they didn't really perfect until they started playing live. Personally, my favorite versions of that song are from the Tormato era.


Mine is the Keys to Ascension version, though I think I haven't heard a version from the Tormato era you mention. It might be interesting, but I doubt they had added Wakeman's brilliant keyboard duels with Howe in the Wurm section.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 21:13
One previous poster stated that they'd wished Firth would never end - I can relate to that. I think that this Genesis track is THE most amazing piece of art ever really recorded. Yes, whether I love Sade or Slayer, Kajagoogoo or Meshuggah, Firth Of Fifth is THE MOST AMAZING 'song' I've been fortunate enough to enjoy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 21:36
I'm sorry but Hackett vs Howe equals GTR!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2017 at 22:01
^ I must raid my sister's vinyl collection - this GTR album is there. I did recognise Hackett To Bits (or pieces, or whatever it is......). Still like ASIA more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2017 at 00:18
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

I'd have to go with Starship Trooper, although it's one of those songs (like a lot of The Yes Album) that they didn't really perfect until they started playing live. Personally, my favorite versions of that song are from the Tormato era.


Mine is the Keys to Ascension version, though I think I haven't heard a version from the Tormato era you mention. It might be interesting, but I doubt they had added Wakeman's brilliant keyboard duels with Howe in the Wurm section.


On the contrary, Wakeman would pick up a keytar and duel head to head with Howe! Wakeman also adds another synth solo in the Disullion section underneath all the "Ohhhs", which I think was ditched for future tours.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2017 at 01:18
Never mind prog - Hackett's solo on 'Firth of Fifth' is one of the most sublime, haunting and achingly beautiful in the history of electric music.  On the contrary, 'Starship Trooper' suffers from the final Wurm section...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2017 at 01:46
I love much Steve Howe's country-influenced guitar work in Starship Trooper especially in Wurm part, what is very brilliant for me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2017 at 01:50
Well, each to their own - I find the 'Wurm' section a 'bolt on' to the rest of the song (although seems to work better on Yessongs)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2017 at 13:29
Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

I'd have to go with Starship Trooper, although it's one of those songs (like a lot of The Yes Album) that they didn't really perfect until they started playing live. Personally, my favorite versions of that song are from the Tormato era.


Mine is the Keys to Ascension version, though I think I haven't heard a version from the Tormato era you mention. It might be interesting, but I doubt they had added Wakeman's brilliant keyboard duels with Howe in the Wurm section.


On the contrary, Wakeman would pick up a keytar and duel head to head with Howe! Wakeman also adds another synth solo in the Disullion section underneath all the "Ohhhs", which I think was ditched for future tours.




Yeah, that's a pretty cool version, and they did go crazy at the end with the solos... however, I still prefer the one on Keys to Ascension... Wakeman's solo sounds like he put more work into it. The bad part is that he just about stole the focus from Howe.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2017 at 09:33
^Yeah, Wakeman won there. Howe is clearly very talented, but I don't respond well to his harsh vamping and flanging style on this song and many others. I don't get the whole conception of the song either. Why is this song not a Space Rock sort of thing?

So, um, anyway, as a song I don't like Firth of Fifth either, but I do absolutely love Hackett's soaring lead, and Banks' intro too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2018 at 18:23
Genesis on this one.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2018 at 22:25
As a song I think Firth Of Fifth would have won, but as a guitar work in those songs itīs starship.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2018 at 23:38
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

As a song I think Firth Of Fifth would have won, but as a guitar work in those songs itīs starship.
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